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2014-03-14T17:22:32Z

Pravs: /* Language filter for diaspora */

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 <big>'''Apart from the following ideas , you can propose your own ideas'''</big>
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=Potential Mentors=
# Santhosh Thottingal ('''santhosh''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Baiju M ('''baijum''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Praveen A ('''j4v4m4n''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Rajeesh K Nambiar ('''rajeeshknambiar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Vasudev Kammath ('''copyninja''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Jishnu Mohan ('''jishnu7''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Hrishikesh K.B ('''stultus''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anivar Aravind ('''anivar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anilkumar K V ('''anilkumar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Sajjad Anwar ('''geohacker''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Deepa V Gopinath ('''deepagopinath''' on irc.freenode.net)
# jain Basil ('''jainbasil''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Ershad K ('''ershad''' on irc.freenode.net
# Navaneeth ('''nkn__''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Nishan Naseer ('''nishan''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Nandaja Varma ('''gem''' on irc.freenode.net)

=Ideas for Google Summer of Code 2014=
* Please Read the [http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2014#FAQ FAQ]
* If you want to propose an idea, please do it in [http://lists.smc.org.in/listinfo.cgi/student-projects-smc.org.in student projects mailing list]

=Projects with confirmed mentors=

== A spell checker for Indic language that understands inflections ==

'''Project''':

SILPA project has a spellchecker written using python with a not so simple algorithm. But still it is not capable of handling inflection and agglutination occurring in Indian languages especially south Indian languages. The dictionary we have for Malayalam spellchecker have about 150000 words. Of course we can expand the dictionary, but that doesn't have much value since words can be formed in Malayalam or Tamil etc by joining multiple words. In addition to that, words get inflected based on grammar forms(sandhi), plural, gender etc. Hunspell has a system to handle this, but so far nobody succeeded in getting it working for multi level suffix stripping as required for Malayalam. Some times a Malayalam word can be formed by more than 5 words joining together. We will need a word splitting logic or a table taking care of all patterns. The project is to attempt solving this with hunspell. If that is not feasible(hunspell upstream is not active), develop an algorithm and implement it.

Recently Tamil attempted developing a spellchecker using Hunspell with multi level suffix stripping. You can see the result here https://github.com/thamizha/solthiruthi.
Our attempt should be first to use Hunspell to achieve spellchecking with agglutination and inflection. Probably it will require lot of scripting to generate suffix patterns, we can ask help from existing language communities too. If Hunspell has limitation with multi level suffxes- sometimes Indian languages require more than 5 levels of suffix stripping, we need to document it(bug and documentation) and try to attempt python based solution on top of SILPA framework.

The project is not about coding an existing algorithm, but to develop and implement an algorithm.

Hunspell's limitations can be understood from [[User:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%A8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%B7%E0%B5%8D/HunspellConversation| this conversation]] we had with the author of Hunspell in 2008

Homework to do before submitting applications:
# Use Hunspell in any Indian language like Malayalam for spell correction in editors or word processors and understand the limitations
# Study the nature of inflection and agglutination in Indian languages, read existing documents on this(ask for documents too) and note down your observations
# Study Hunspell and other spellcheckers to see how this problem is addressed
# Understand how a spell checker works. How to write a spellchecker from scratch?
# Come up with a plan about addressing the issue.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12558 Savannah Task]'''

'''Complexity''': Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentor''': Santhosh Thottingal

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - santhosh on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Average level understanding of grammar system of at least one Indian language and complete the homework as listed above.

'''What the student will learn''':

==Indic rendering support in ConTeXt==

'''Project''':

ConTeXt is another TeX macro system similar to LaTeX but much more suitable for design. To find more information about ConTeXt, see the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page. ConTeXt MKII have Indic language rendering support using XeTeX. but MKII is deprecated, and the new MKIV backend doesn't support Indic rendering yet. The aim of this project is to add support to Inidic rendering to ConTeXt MKIV. XeTeX is using Harfbuzz to do correct Indic rendering.

'''More Details''': A partially working patch by Rajeesh for MKIV lua code is available. ConTeXt mkii (deprecated) can work with XeTeX backend for Indic rendering. Here is a sample file:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[malayalam][script=mlym]
\setmainfont[Rachana][features=malayalam]
\starttext
മലയാളം \TeX ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ടൈപ്പ്സെറ്റ് ചെയ്തത്
\stoptext
Generate the output using command
texexec --xetex <file.tex>

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12559 Savannah Task]'''

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - rajeeshknambiar on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Understanding of the TeX system, experience in either LaTeX or ConTeXt and basic understanding of Indic language rendering. MKIV uses Lua, familiarity with Lua, opentype specifications or Harfbuzz will be added advantage.

'''What the students will learn''':

==Language model and Acoustic model for Malayalam language for speech recognition system in CMU Sphinx==

'''Project''':

CMU Sphinx is a large vocabulary, speaker independent speech recognition codebase and suite of tools, which can be used to develop speech recognition system in any language. To develop an automatic speech recognition system in a language, acoustic model and language model has to framed for that particular language. Acoustic models characterize how sound changes over time. It captures the characteristics of basic recognition units. The language model describes the likelihood, probability, or penalty taken when a sequence or collection of words is seen. It attempts to convey behavior of the language and tries to predict the occurrence of specific word sequences possible in the language. Once these two models are developed, it will be useful to every one doing research in speech processing. For Indian languages Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Marati, ASR systems have been developed using sphinx engine. In this project work is aimed at developing acoustic model and language model for Malayalam.

'''Background Reading'''
* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gopalakr/publications/spdatabases_specom05.pdf 'Development of Indian Language Speech Databases for Large Vocabulary Speech Recognition Systems'], Gopalakrishna Anumanchipalli, Rahul Chitturi, Sachin Joshi, Rohit Kumar, Satinder Pal Singh, R.N.V. Sitaram, S P Kishore
* [http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/W/W12/W12-5808.pdf "Automatic Pronunciation Evaluation And Mispronunciation Detection Using CMUSphinx"], Ronanki Srikanth, James Salsman
* http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/
* http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/wiki/tutorial
* [http://www.ijarcsse.com "HTK Based Telugu Speech Recognition"], P. Vijai Bhaskar, AVNIET ,Hyderabad, Prof. Dr. S. Rama Mohan Rao, A.Gopi
* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~araza/Automatic_Speech_Recognition_System_for_Urdu.PDF "Design and Development of an Automatic Speech Recognition System for Urdu"], Agha Ali Raza, M.Sc. Thesis, FAST‐National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences
* [http://www.ccis2k.org/iajit/PDF/vol.6,no.2/11IASRUCSS186.pdf "Investigation Arabic Speech Recognition Using CMU Sphinx System"], Hassan Satori1, 2, Hussein Hiyassat3, Mostafa Harti1, 2, and Noureddine Chenfour
* [http://www.try.idv.tw/static-resources/homework/pr/PR_Final_Report.pdf "Understanding the CMU Sphinx Speech Recognition System"], Chun-Feng Liao

'''Complexity''' :

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Deepa P Gopinath

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - deepagopinath on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''':

'''What the students will learn''':

==SILPA Project Based==

===SILPA Project Improvements===

'''Project''':

This is set of ideas needed to improve the existing SILPA infrastructure. We have decided following tasks as part of this project

# Provide REST API to SILPA without disturbing existing JSONRPC API
# Improve the Transliteration module
# Integrate [https://github.com/Project-SILPA/flask-webfonts Flask Webfonts] extension with SILPA to provide Webfonts support.

==== Provide REST like API for SILPA ====

SILPA provides JSONRPC API currently which is also utilized by the templates of framework. JSONRPC is not well supported in all languages and results in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here NIH code]. So we would like to provide REST like HTTP based API's for SILPA and at the same time leave the current JSONRPC code untouched for backward compatibility reasons.

'''Objectives''':

* Develop module or use existing module to provide REST like API's
* API should support GET and POST. [http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet.html When to use GET?].

Many people have doubt on how the API should look like. We can give twitter API (https://dev.twitter.com/docs/api) as example
Sample API calls :
-------------------------------------------------------------
POST api.silpa.org.in/payyans/ASCII2Unicode
Paramets: text, font
Response: JSON data
-------------------------------------------------------------
POST api.silpa.org.in/payyans/Unicode2ASCII
Paramets: text, font
Response: JSON data
-------------------------------------------------------------
Generic:
GET/POST (http://api.silpa.org.in/module/function_name or http://silpa.org.in/api/module/function_name)
Parameters: function parameters
Response: JSON encoded return value from function

==== Improve Transliteration module ====

We have a Transliteration module which supports transliteration from any Indic language to other Indic language and also support to English to Indic and Indic to English transliteration. Also we support IPA and ISO15919 transliteration system. But the module isn't in perfect shape and has lot of bugs. With this idea we would like to improve the following parts

# Improve cross indic language transliteration system. Currently only Malayalam and Kannada are working without any external language support, all other Indian languages are first transliterated to Malayalam and then transliterated to target Indic language. We want to remove this cycle from source -> Malayalam -> target.
# English to IPA transliteration is currently broken and this needs to be fixed. See [https://github.com/Project-SILPA/Transliteration/issues/3 IPA transliteration bug].
# Once the IPA transliteration issue above is fixed, imporve English to Indic transliteration system using IPA. Currently English to Indic transliteration system is done using CMU Sphinx dictionary which is having limited set of words which inturn limits the output of English to Indic transliteration system.
# Improve IS015919 to Indic transliteration system see [https://github.com/Project-SILPA/Transliteration/issues/4 IS015919 to Indic transliteration].

CLDR has transliteration data for Indic languages. We can explore it and see the feasibility. For an intermediate representation of the scripts either IPA can be used or ISO 15919 standard can be used. All these must be supplemented with exception rules and special case handling to achieve more perfect result.

==== Integrating flask-webfonts extension with SILPA ====

SILPA used to have a Webfonts module for serving Indian language fonts as Webfonts for browsers. During GSOC 2013 it was separated as an extension to Flask framework which can be generally used with any Flask powered app. The current code can be found at [https://github.com/Project-SILPA/flask-webfonts]. The module is not fine tuned yet so below are the objectives.

# The module is not yet fine tuned and using it will make other modules break. This needs to be fixed (Can be checked with 'webfonts' branch of SILPA code on github.
# Write tests to check the functionalities.
# Adhere to Flask extension guidelines and submit the modules to Flask extensions directory.
# Write a tool which can take a directory containing fonts file or single font file and generate configuration file needed by the extension. (A possible such tool which is outdated can be found at [https://github.com/copyninja/fontinfo])
# Provide HTTP api's through flask extension which can expose the CSS for applications.

For all tasks above we expect documentation, test cases from the students as deliverable.

'''Complexity''' : Intermediate

'''Confirmed Mentors''' : Vasudev Kamath, Jishnu Mohan

'''How to contact the mentors''': IRC -
*Vasudev Kamath - copyninja on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode
*Jishnu Mohan - jishnu7 on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode

'''Mailing List''': silpa-discuss@nongnu.org <preferred>

'''Expertise required''': Python , Flask , Jinja , HTML, Javascript

'''What the students will learn''':

# Writing applications using Flask
# Various Transliteration system knolwedge
# Webfonts knowledge and writing extensions for Flask
# Test drive development.

===Android SDK for Silpa===

'''Project''':

Port possible Silpa modules to java and create SDK so that other developers can use this for their apps. Modules like Indic Render, Transliteration, Payyas has really good potential in android because of the fragmentation exists in Android and lack for proper Indic support. This SDK will help developers to support their Indic app in wide range of android devices.

'''Objectives''':
<Please note this idea is for a SDK, not an app or just a java port>

*All modules need to be ported to java so that it can be used inside an Android Project.
*Other applications should be able to use this Silpa library to easy integrate features (as a SDK) from our modules. Eg.
**Transliteration - Developer can specify a text input inside the application needs transliteration, and our SDK should take care of the transliteration process whenever user inputs text to that field.
**Render module - Detect whether necessary font is available in the system, if it is not, render text as image and replace text with this.
**All modules can be explained like this.
*Investigate whether image rendering part of render module can be done in device, inside application itself. Few ways to implement that are
**Compiling cairo/pango with ndk
**Compiling Harffbuzz from AOSP tree with ndk
**Based on the result of rendering module investigation, we can device on whether to use server side rendering or not.
**Pack popular fonts with the SDK, Use it to display text if device doesn't have required font. (there are few hacks to get better rendering in older versions of android). Developer should be able to force rendering using packaged font, to get consistency across devices.

<Better to prepare SDK with helper than preparing application itself. SDK aka library>

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentors''' : Hrishikesh K. B, Jishnu Mohan, Aashik S

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC -
*Hrishikesh K B - stultus on on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode
*Jishnu Mohan - jishnu7 on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode
*Aashik S - irumbumoideen on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Java, Android, Python

'''What the students will learn''':

===Converting indic processing modules currently in SILPA into javascript modules library===

'''Project''':

Port some of the silpa algorithms to node modules. Several modules, alogorithms in SILPA project is done in python now. But porting them to javascript helps developers. For example, cross language transliteration can be done javascript too if we port the algorithm and transliteration rules. Similarly the approximate search can be ported. A flexibile fuzzy search on the web pages will be possible if we have the algorithm in javascript.

Proposed javascript module pattern is https://github.com/umdjs/umd

Student proposals should have a list of alogorithms planning to port, planned demo applications, planned documentation details, and publishing details(Example: npm registry)

'''Complexity''' :

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Santhosh Thottingal, Jishnu Mohan

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - jishnu7 santhosh on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode

''' Mailing List''': silpa-discuss@nongnu.org

'''Expertise required''': javascript, python

'''What the students will learn''':

===Integrate Varnam into Silpa===

Create a Silpa module which hosts [http://www.varnamproject.com varnam]. This includes making a python port for libvarnam and making a Silpa module which uses the python port.

'''Complexity''' : Medium

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project and #silpa on Freenode

''' Mailing List''': silpa-discuss@nongnu.org

'''Expertise required''': C, Python

==Language filter for diaspora==

Diaspora is a Free Software, federated social networking platform. Diaspora users post in many languages. When people use more than one language in their posts, it is inconvenient for people who don't understand a language. This task is to tag every post with languages used in the post, ideally detected automatically, but with an option to override it. Once each post has a language tag, people should be able to choose their preferred language and posts in other languages should be hidden by default. Also provide an option to translate posts and comments.

'''Complexity''' :

'''Confirmed Mentors''' : Pirate Praveen, Ershad K

'''How to contact the mentors''': IRC
*Pirate Praveen - j4v4m4n on #smc-project on Freenode
*Ershad K - ershad on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Ruby on Rails

'''Upstream discussion''': https://www.loomio.org/d/4vTqCj5X/language-filter-for-diaspora-as-a-gsoc-project

'''What the students will learn''':

==Varnam Based==

Varnam is a cross-platform predictive transliterator for Indian languages. It works mostly like Google's transliterate, but shows key differences in the way word tokenization is done. It has a learning system built in which allows Varnam to make smart predictions.

There are varnam clients available as [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/varnam-transliteration-base/ Firefox]] & [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/varnam-ime/abcfkeabpcanobhdmcmdabejaamephaf Chrome addon] and an [https://gitorious.org/varnamproject/libvarnam-ibus/source/d939adf50024013902c27310c03ef21a9210cdcb IBus engine].

To try out Varnam, navigate to [http://varnamproject.com/editor[http://varnamproject.com/editor]]. Currently it support Hindi and Malayalam.

* [http://www.varnamproject.com/docs/faq FAQ]
* [http://www.varnamproject.com/docs Documentation]
* [http://www.varnamproject.com/docs/contributing Contributors guide & ideas to work on]

Apart from the following ideas, you can propose your own idea.

===Programming language bindings & varnam-daemon===

Varnam is written on C which makes interoperability with other languages easy. There are language bindings available for `NodeJs` and `Ruby`. Supporting Varnam in multiple languages allows projects to use varnam easily to enable Indian language input.

To make using varnam from different languages easier, make a cross platform standalone process which uses `libvarnam` shared library and exposes a RPC API over network. This allows any programming language with a socket support can be used with libvarnam. This also makes language bindings fairly easy because they don't have to work with the native interoperability support. The protocol can be a simple text based protocol for all the commands that `libvarnam` supports.

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': C

===Improvements to the REST API===

'''Project''':

This includes rewrite of the current implementation in `golang` and add support for WebSockets to improve the input experience. This also
includes making scripts that would ease embedding input on any webpage. All the changes done will go live on[1]

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Basic understanding of golang and C

'''What the students will learn''':

===Improve the learning system===

'''Project''':

The main goal of this is to improve how varnam tokenizes when learning words. Today, when a word is learned, varnam takes all the possible prefixes into account and learn all of them to improve future suggestions. But sometimes, this is not enough to predict good suggestions. An improvement is suggested which will try to infer the base form of the word under learning.

Varnam has a learning system built-in which can learn words and it can also learn possible other ways to write a word. Consider the following example.

<code>
<pre>
learn("भारत") = [bharat, bhaarath, bharath]
transliterate("bharat") = भारत
transliterate("bhaarath") = भारत
transliterate("bharath") = भारत
</pre>
</code>

Varnam also learns a word's prefixes so that it can produce better predictions for any word which has the same prefix. So in this case, with just learning the word "भारत", varnam can predict "bharateey" = "भारतीय".

The proposed idea talks about making this learn better. One example is infer the word "भारत" when learning भारतीय. Something like a porter stemmer implementation but integrated into the varnam framework so that
new language support can be added easily.

This idea also includes improving concurrency support for learn. Currently, learn can't be called concurrently because of the restrictions on the SQLite. So every learn has to be sequentially done. This needs to be improved by having a simple internal queue from which words gets queued when the learn is busy.

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Knowledge in C, Ruby (basics)

'''What the students will learn''':

===Create an Android IME===

Android has an extensible input method system. Use that to make a IME which uses varnam internally. This includes, getting `libvarnam` compiled on android first.

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Expertise required''': C, Android, Java

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

===Enable varnam's suggestions system to be used from Inscript or any other input system===

Varnam has knowledge about lot of words. This idea proposes a method to use these words and provide suggestions for other input systems. Basically, in Varnam, the API call will be something like,

<code><pre>
varnam_get_suggestions (handle, "भारत");
</pre></code>

This will fetch all the suggestions which has the given prefix.

`varnam_get_suggestions` needs to keep track of the previous words and use [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-gram n-gram] based dataset to filter the results. This should also learn the words back into the word corpus that varnam is using. Filtering suggestions won't be just a prefix search, but it will have knowledge about how text can be written in the target language and provide smart filtering. Searching in a large corpus and providing real-time suggestions makes this a challenging task.

Once this is implemented in `libvarnam`, it can be used in the ibus-engine.

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

'''Expertise required''': C, Unicode & encodings

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

=== Word corpus synchronization ===

'''Project''':

Create a cross-platform synchronization tool which can upload/download the word corpus from offline IMEs like varnam-ibus[2]. This helps to build the online words corpus easily.

'''Complexity''' : Medium

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Navaneeth K N

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - nkn__ on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Knowledge in C/golang

'''What the students will learn''':

* [1]: http://www.varnamproject.com
* [2]: https://gitorious.org/varnamproject/libvarnam-ibus/

==Adding Braille Keyboard layouts for Indian Languages to m17n Library==

'''Project''':

Project is building support for Bharati Braille keyboard layouts in GNU/Linux systemes. Bharati Braille standard is the official Braille standard in India. A regular QWERTY keyboard is used for data entry. SDF-JKL keys are used for six dots of Braille. This support need to be built as m17n layouts. This will enable visually challenged people who studied braille layouts to use GNU/Linux systems easily with the help of Audio feedback from TTS

'''More Details'''
* http://www.acharya.gen.in:8080/disabilities/bh_brl.php
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharati_Braille
* http://www.nongnu.org/m17n/

'''Complexity''' :

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Anilkumar K V

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - anilkumar on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''':

'''What the students will learn''':

==Grandham ==

=== Adding MARC21 import/export feature in Grandham ===

We need a feature in Grandham to import and parse data from MARC21 documents. We should also be able to export existing data in MARC21.

'''Complexity''' : High

'''Confirmed Mentor''' : Ershad K

'''How to contact the mentor''': IRC - ershad on #smc-project on Freenode

'''Expertise required''': Knowledge in Ruby/Ruby on Rails

'''What the students will learn''':

* [1]: http://dev.grandham.org
* [2]: https://github.com/smc/grandham

=Projects with unconfirmed mentors=

GSoC/2014/Project ideas

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=Ideas for Google Summer of Code 2014=
* Please Read the [http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2013#FAQ FAQ]

<big>'''Apart from the following ideas , you can propose your own ideas'''</big>

If you want to propose an idea, please do it in [http://lists.smc.org.in/listinfo.cgi/discuss-smc.org.in project mailing list]>

== A spell checker for Indic language that understands inflections ==
'''Project''':

SILPA project has a spellchecker written using python with a not so simple algorithm. But still it is not capable of handling inflection and agglutination occurring in Indian languages especially south Indian languages. The dictionary we have for Malayalam spellchecker have about 150000 words. Of course we can expand the dictionary, but that doesn't have much value since words can be formed in Malayalam or Tamil etc by joining multiple words. In addition to that, words get inflected based on grammar forms(sandhi), plural, gender etc. Hunspell has a system to handle this, but so far nobody succeeded in getting it working for multi level suffix stripping as required for Malayalam. Some times a Malayalam word can be formed by more than 5 words joining together. We will need a word splitting logic or a table taking care of all patterns. The project is to attempt solving this with hunspell. If that is not feasible(hunspell upstream is not active), develop an algorithm and implement it.

Recently Tamil attempted developing a spellchecker using Hunspell with multi level suffix stripping. You can see the result here https://github.com/thamizha/solthiruthi.
Our attempt should be first to use Hunspell to achieve spellchecking with agglutination and inflection. Probably it will require lot of scripting to generate suffix patterns, we can ask help from existing language communities too. If Hunspell has limitation with multi level suffxes- sometimes Indian languages require more than 5 levels of suffix stripping, we need to document it(bug and documentation) and try to attempt python based solution on top of SILPA framework.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12558 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': Average level understanding of grammar system of at least one Indian language
* Complexity: Advanced
* '''Mentor''' : Santhosh Thottingal

==Indic rendering support in ConTeXt==
'''Project''':

ConTeXt is another TeX macro system similar to LaTeX but much more suitable for design. To find more information about ConTeXt, see the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page. ConTeXt MKII have Indic language rendering support using XeTeX. but MKII is deprecated, and the new MKIV backend doesn't support Indic rendering yet. The aim of this project is to add support to Inidic rendering to ConTeXt MKIV. XeTeX is using Harfbuzz to do correct Indic rendering.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12559 Savannah Task]
* '''Expertise required''': Understanding of the TeX system, experience in either LaTeX or ConTeXt and basic understanding of Indic language rendering. MKIV uses Lua, familiarity with Lua, opentype specifications or Harfbuzz will be added advantage.

* '''Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar
* '''Complexity''' : Advanced

* '''More Details''': A partially working patch by Rajeesh for MKIV lua code is available. ConTeXt mkii (deprecated) can work with XeTeX backend for Indic rendering. Here is a sample file:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[malayalam][script=mlym]
\setmainfont[Rachana][features=malayalam]
\starttext
മലയാളം \TeX ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ടൈപ്പ്സെറ്റ് ചെയ്തത്
\stoptext
Generate the output using command
texexec --xetex <file.tex>

==Language model and Acoustic model for Malayalam language for speech recognition system in CMU Sphinx==

CMU Sphinx is a large vocabulary, speaker independent speech recognition codebase and suite of tools, which can be used to develop speech recognition system in any language. To develop an automatic speech recognition system in a language, acoustic model and language model has to framed for that particular language. Acoustic models characterize how sound changes over time. It captures the characteristics of basic recognition units. The language model describes the likelihood, probability, or penalty taken when a sequence or collection of words is seen. It attempts to convey behavior of the language and tries to predict the occurrence of specific word sequences possible in the language. Once these two models are developed, it will be useful to every one doing research in speech processing. For Indian languages Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Marati, ASR systems have been developed using sphinx engine. In this project work is aimed at developing acoustic model and language model for Malayalam.

'''Mentor''': Deepa P. Gopinath
=== Background Reading ===

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gopalakr/publications/spdatabases_specom05.pdf 'Development of Indian Language Speech Databases for Large Vocabulary Speech Recognition Systems'], Gopalakrishna Anumanchipalli, Rahul Chitturi, Sachin Joshi, Rohit Kumar, Satinder Pal Singh, R.N.V. Sitaram, S P Kishore

* [http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/W/W12/W12-5808.pdf "Automatic Pronunciation Evaluation And Mispronunciation Detection Using CMUSphinx"], Ronanki Srikanth, James Salsman

* http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/
* http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/wiki/tutorial

* [http://www.ijarcsse.com "HTK Based Telugu Speech Recognition"], P. Vijai Bhaskar, AVNIET ,Hyderabad, Prof. Dr. S. Rama Mohan Rao, A.Gopi

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~araza/Automatic_Speech_Recognition_System_for_Urdu.PDF "Design and Development of an Automatic Speech Recognition System for Urdu"], Agha Ali Raza, M.Sc. Thesis, FAST‐National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences

* [http://www.ccis2k.org/iajit/PDF/vol.6,no.2/11IASRUCSS186.pdf "Investigation Arabic Speech Recognition Using CMU Sphinx System"], Hassan Satori1, 2, Hussein Hiyassat3, Mostafa Harti1, 2, and Noureddine Chenfour

* [http://www.try.idv.tw/static-resources/homework/pr/PR_Final_Report.pdf "Understanding the CMU Sphinx Speech Recognition System"], Chun-Feng Liao

==Language filter for diaspora==

Diaspora is a Free Software, federated social networking platform. Diaspora users post in many languages. When people use more than one language in their posts, it is inconvenient for people who don't understand a language. This task is to tag every post with languages used in the post, ideally detected automatically, but with an option to override it. Once each post has a language tag, people should be able to choose their preferred language and posts in other languages should be hidden by default. Also provide an option to translate posts and comments.

* '''Expertise required''': Ruby on Rails
* '''Mentor''': Pirate Praveen, Ershad K

User:Pravs

2013-09-03T14:31:05Z

Pravs:

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<td>{{KDEContributor}}</td></tr>
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{{GnomeContributor}}
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==പ്രൊഫൈല്‍==



He was worked around 8 years in IT field with Hewlett-Packard as a Free Software consultant in Bangalore and Cupertino, and with RedHat in Pune as Senior System Administrator. He completed his Btech in Electrical and Electronics Engineering from NIT Calicut.

Praveen is a debian developer and started the debian-diaspora project, which is aimed at making diaspora easy to be installed on debian based systems. He maintains quite a few packages for diaspora. He is also a huge fan and advocate of #freesoftware, #privacy and freedom of #speech.

He is also a mentor to the #GSoC program under Swathanthra Malayalam Computing and through #SMC and other #FOSS Communities, he have inspired many to follow the path of #freedom and #opensource. He is one of the guys who initially had the idea to save poddery.com and run a campaign for the same. He also conducts computer classes along with his friends at a school in Pandav Nagar, #pune and teach domestic workers of Shramik Mahila Morcha as part of #pirate #computer center of Pirate Party of India.

User:Pravs

2013-09-03T14:25:30Z

Pravs: profile added

==പ്രൊഫൈല്‍==



He was worked around 8 years in IT field with Hewlett-Packard as a Free Software consultant in Bangalore and Cupertino, and as Senior System Administrtor at RedHat in Pune.

Praveen is a debian developer and started the debian-diaspora project, which is aimed at making diaspora easy to be installed on debian based systems. He maintains quite a few packages for diaspora. He is also a huge fan and advocate of #freesoftware, #privacy and freedom of #speech.

He is also a mentor to the #GSoC program under Swathanthra Malayalam Computing and through #SMC and other #FOSS Communities, he have inspired many to follow the path of #freedom and #opensource. He is one of the guys who initially had the idea to save poddery.com and run a campaign for the same. He also conducts computer classes along with his friends at a school in Pandav Nagar, #pune and teach domestic workers of Shramik Mahila Morcha as part of #pirate #computer center of Pirate Party of India.

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<td>{{KDEContributor}}</td></tr>
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{{GnomeContributor}}
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Local lists

2013-09-03T11:59:30Z

Pravs: creating lists

==തിരുവനന്തപുരം==
# fsug tvm

== കൊല്ലം ==
# [http://www.freelists.org/list/ssug-kollam SSUG Kollam]

==എറണാംകുളം==

# ilug kochin

==പാലക്കാട്==
# [http://plus.sarovar.org plus]
# allforabacus

==മലപ്പുറം==
# [http://www.freelists.org/list/ssug-malappuram ssug malappuram]
# mes-fsug

==കോഴിക്കോട്==
# [http://www.freelists.org/list/ssug-calicut fsug calicut]

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം/SMC Camp

2013-09-03T11:53:34Z

Pravs: /* ഒന്നാം തലം */ മെയിലിങ്ങ് ലിസ്റ്റ് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്തണം താത്പര്യമുള്ളവരുടെ പേരു് വിവരങ്ങള്‍

{{PU|AnnualMeet2013/SMC Camp}}
=ക്യാമ്പിനെ കുറിച്ച്=

=ക്യാമ്പുകളുടെ പൊതുഘടന=

* [http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/smc2013 അവതരണങ്ങളുണ്ടാക്കാനുള്ള വിവരങ്ങള്‍ ഇവിടെ]

# Language computing
# Malayalam computing initiatives
##Free Malayalam computing intiative
###Blog
###Wikipedia
###Other initiatives
##Proprietary
#Community initiatives vs individual initiatives
#Groups and mode of communication.
#Mailing list/community/groups/discussion forums
#Bug reporting/fixing/contributing
#Community practices
#Coding practices
#Mailing list practices
#Project philosophy
#Job opportunity is free software and language computing
#Future

=ഒന്നാം തലം=
ഒന്നാം തലം പ്രധാനമായും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളേയും കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ പ്രോഗ്രാം ചെയ്യുന്നത് മുഖ്യവിഷയമാക്കിയിട്ടുള്ളവരെയും ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിച്ചുള്ളതാണ്. ഇതില്‍ കമ്പ്യുട്ടര്‍ പ്രോഗ്രാമിങ്ങ് രീതികള്‍ വേര്‍ഷന്‍ കണ്ട്രോളിങ്ങ് തുടങ്ങിയവയ്ക്ക് പ്രാധ്യാന്യം കൊടുക്കുന്ന രീതിയില്‍ സജീകരിക്കണം. പരിപാടി നടത്തുന്ന ജില്ലയിലെ സജീവ മെയിലിങ്ങ് ലിസ്റ്റിലും എസ്എംസി ലിസ്റ്റിലും ചേരാന്‍ ക്ഷണിയ്ക്കണം. സജീവ [[local_lists|മെയിലിങ്ങ് ലിസ്റ്റുകളുടെ പട്ടിക ഇവിടെ]].

ഇതുവഴി വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥികള്‍ക്ക് ഡെവലപ്പര്‍ കൂട്ടായ്മകളുമായി ഇടപെടാന്‍ സഹായിക്കുക എന്നാണ് ഉദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത്. താഴെ പറയുന്ന വിഭാഗങ്ങളിയാണ് ക്ലാസുകള്‍ നിര്‍ദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത്.

# Unix Commads
# Bug reporting and bug handling
# Version Controlling
# Good coding practices
# Interacting with a developer community

തുടര്‍ന്നു് ബന്ധപ്പെടാന്‍ താഴെ പറയുന്ന കാര്യങ്ങളില്‍ താത്പര്യമുള്ളവരുടെ പേരും ഇമെയിലും ഫോണ്‍ നമ്പറും വേടിയ്ക്കാം.

* തുടര്‍ന്നും ഇതു് പോലുള്ള പരിപാടികള്‍ വേണമെന്നാഗ്രഹിയ്ക്കുന്നവര്‍
* ഇതു് പോലുള്ള പരിപാടികള്‍ നടത്താന്‍ സഹായിക്കാനാഗ്രഹിയ്ക്കുന്നവര്‍
* ചെറിയ പ്രൊജക്റ്റുകലിലൂടെ സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ സംഭാവന തുടങ്ങാന്‍ ആഗ്രഹിയ്ക്കുന്നവര്‍

[[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/SMC_Camp/Level1|കൂടുതല്‍ വിവരങ്ങള്‍ക്ക്]]

=രണ്ടാം തലം=
പ്രധാനമായും സങ്കേതികേതര വിഷയങ്ങള്‍ പ്രത്യേകിച്ചും മലയാളം ഭാഷ പഠിക്കുന്നവരെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെച്ചുള്ളതാണ് ഇത്. ഇവിടെ OCR പരീശീലിപ്പിക്കുന്ന രീതി മുതല്‍ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ ഭാഷയെ കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യുന്ന രീതി വരെ ആകാം
=മൂന്നാം തലം=
പ്രധാനമായും ചിത്രകല അഭ്യസിക്കുന്ന വരെ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചാണ്. ഇവിടെ പ്രാധാന്യം ലിപിരൂപങ്ങള്‍, ഐക്കണ്‍, തീം തുടങ്ങി user interface design and usabilty വരെ പ്രതീക്ഷിക്കുന്നു
=നാലാം തലം=
പ്രോഗ്രാമിങ്ങ് അല്ലാതെ സാങ്കേതിക വിദ്യ കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യുന്ന പ്രത്യേകിച്ച് IT@School പരിശീലകരെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെച്ചുള്ളത്
=അഞ്ചാം തലം=
പൊതുവായി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറില്‍ ഇന്‍സ്റ്റാള്‍ ചെയ്യാനും ഉപയോഗിക്കാനുമുള്ള പരീശീലനം ആണ് ഇതിലൂടെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെക്കുന്നത്.

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം/SMC Camp

2013-09-03T11:44:10Z

Pravs: /* ക്യാമ്പുകളുടെ പൊതുഘടന */ എഥര്‍പാഡിലേയ്ക്കുള്ള കണ്ണി ചേര്‍ത്തു

{{PU|AnnualMeet2013/SMC Camp}}
=ക്യാമ്പിനെ കുറിച്ച്=

=ക്യാമ്പുകളുടെ പൊതുഘടന=

* [http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/smc2013 അവതരണങ്ങളുണ്ടാക്കാനുള്ള വിവരങ്ങള്‍ ഇവിടെ]

# Language computing
# Malayalam computing initiatives
##Free Malayalam computing intiative
###Blog
###Wikipedia
###Other initiatives
##Proprietary
#Community initiatives vs individual initiatives
#Groups and mode of communication.
#Mailing list/community/groups/discussion forums
#Bug reporting/fixing/contributing
#Community practices
#Coding practices
#Mailing list practices
#Project philosophy
#Job opportunity is free software and language computing
#Future

=ഒന്നാം തലം=
ഒന്നാം തലം പ്രധാനമായും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളേയും കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ പ്രോഗ്രാം ചെയ്യുന്നത് മുഖ്യവിഷയമാക്കിയിട്ടുള്ളവരെയും ഉദ്ദേശ്ശിച്ചുള്ളതാണ്. ഇതില്‍ കമ്പ്യുട്ടര്‍ പ്രോഗ്രാമിങ്ങ് രീതികള്‍ വേര്‍ഷന്‍ കണ്ട്രോളിങ്ങ് തുടങ്ങിയവയ്ക്ക് പ്രാധ്യാന്യം കൊടുക്കുന്ന രീതിയില്‍ സജീകരിക്കണം.

ഇതുവഴി വിദ്യാർത്ഥികൾക്ക് ഡെവലപ്പർ കൂട്ടായ്മകളുമായി ഇടപെടാൻ സഹായിക്കുക എന്നാണ് ഉദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത്. താഴെ പറയുന്ന വിഭാഗങ്ങളിയാണ് ക്ലാസുകൾ നിർദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത്.

# Unix Commads
# Bug reporting and bug handling
# Version Controlling
# Good coding practices
# Interacting with a developer community

[[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/SMC_Camp/Level1|കൂടുതല്‍ വിവരങ്ങള്‍ക്ക്]]

=രണ്ടാം തലം=
പ്രധാനമായും സങ്കേതികേതര വിഷയങ്ങള്‍ പ്രത്യേകിച്ചും മലയാളം ഭാഷ പഠിക്കുന്നവരെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെച്ചുള്ളതാണ് ഇത്. ഇവിടെ OCR പരീശീലിപ്പിക്കുന്ന രീതി മുതല്‍ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ ഭാഷയെ കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യുന്ന രീതി വരെ ആകാം
=മൂന്നാം തലം=
പ്രധാനമായും ചിത്രകല അഭ്യസിക്കുന്ന വരെ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചാണ്. ഇവിടെ പ്രാധാന്യം ലിപിരൂപങ്ങള്‍, ഐക്കണ്‍, തീം തുടങ്ങി user interface design and usabilty വരെ പ്രതീക്ഷിക്കുന്നു
=നാലാം തലം=
പ്രോഗ്രാമിങ്ങ് അല്ലാതെ സാങ്കേതിക വിദ്യ കൈകാര്യം ചെയ്യുന്ന പ്രത്യേകിച്ച് IT@School പരിശീലകരെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെച്ചുള്ളത്
=അഞ്ചാം തലം=
പൊതുവായി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറില്‍ ഇന്‍സ്റ്റാള്‍ ചെയ്യാനും ഉപയോഗിക്കാനുമുള്ള പരീശീലനം ആണ് ഇതിലൂടെ ലക്ഷ്യം വെക്കുന്നത്.

വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി 2013/കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍/ഐസാറ്റ് ഓഗസ്റ്റ്29

2013-08-30T14:50:26Z

Pravs: ഐസാറ്റിലെ മിനിറ്റ്സ്

ഐസാറ്റില്‍ (aisat.ac.in) നിന്നും ഫിലിപ്, ജെസ്സി എന്നിവരും സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറിനു് വേണ്ടി സൂരജ് കേണോത്ത്, ഋഷികേശ് കെബി, പ്രവീണ്‍ എ, വിഷ്ണു എം എന്നിവരുമുണ്ടായിരുന്നു. ഈ ഒത്തുചേരല്‍ ഒരുക്കിയ ബോബിന്‍സന്‍ രണ്ടു് ഭാഗത്തു് നിന്നും സംസാരിച്ചു.

* സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ സെല്‍ തുടങ്ങാനുള്ള എല്ലാ പിന്തുണയും ഐസാറ്റിന്റെ ഭാഗത്തു് നിന്നുണ്ടാവും
* അടുത്ത ആഴ്ച തന്നെ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ സയന്‍സിലെ വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥികളെ സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ പരിചയപ്പെടുത്താനുള്ള ക്ലാസ് ഉണ്ടാകും.
രണ്ടു് മണിക്കൂറായി രണ്ടു് പേര്‍ രണ്ടു് ദിവസമായി ക്ലാസെടുക്കാനാണു് തീരുമാനിച്ചതു്. കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍ സയന്‍സ് മാത്രമായൊതുക്കാതെ മറ്റുള്ള വിഭാഗങ്ങളെക്കൂടി ഉള്‍പ്പെടുത്താനുള്ള സജീവ ശ്രമമുണ്ടാകും.
* വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥികള്‍ തന്നെ കാര്യങ്ങള്‍ ഏറ്റെടുത്തു് നടത്തുന്ന രീതിയിലായിരിയ്ക്കും കാര്യങ്ങള്‍.
* പിന്നീടുള്ള ക്ലാസുകള്‍ താത്പര്യമുള്ളവര്‍ക്കു് മാത്രമായി വയ്ക്കാം.
* മെയിലിങ്ങ് ലിസ്റ്റ്, ഐആര്‍സി തുടങ്ങിയ സംവിധാനങ്ങളുപയോഗിച്ചു് വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥികളും സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ കൂട്ടായ്മയും തമ്മിലുള്ള നിരന്തര ആശയവിനിമയത്തിനുള്ള അവസരം തുറക്കും.
* ഐസാറ്റില്‍ ഒരു ഹാക്ക്സ്പേസ് തുടങ്ങാനുള്ള സാധ്യതയും ആരായും
* മാനേജ്മെന്റില്‍ നിന്നുള്ള പൂര്‍ണ്ണ പിന്തുണയുള്ളൊരു കോളേജില്‍ സ്വതന്ത്ര സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയറിനു് നന്നായി വേരോട്ടമുള്ളൊരു സ്ഥലമായി മാറ്റാനുള്ളൊരു സുവര്‍ണ്ണാവസരമാണിതു്.
* എറണാംകുളത്തും പരിസര പ്രദേശത്തുനിന്നുള്ളൊരു നല്ലൊരു ടീം ഉണ്ടാക്കണം. താത്പര്യമുള്ളവര്‍ മുന്നോട്ടു് വരണം.

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം

2013-08-30T13:14:33Z

Pravs: /* കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍ */ ഐസാറ്റ്

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സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി
ഒക്ടോബര്‍ 13,14,15
കേരള സാഹിത്യ അക്കാദമി തൃശ്ശൂര്‍

== പ്രചരണപരിപാടികള്‍ ==

ഓരോ ജില്ലയിലും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളെ കേന്ദ്രമാക്കി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്തുന്ന ഒരു പരിപാടിയെങ്കിലും നടത്തണം. നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കു് ഈ ശ്രമത്തില്‍ സഹായിയ്ക്കാനാകുമെങ്കില്‍ താഴെ പേരു് ചേര്‍ക്കുക.

=== തിരുവനന്തപുരം ===
=== കൊല്ലം ===
=== പാലക്കാട് ===
* [[User:Pravs| പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]

=== തൃശ്ശൂര്‍ ===
* [[User:Manojk|Manojk]] ([[User talk:Manojk|talk]])

== കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍ ==
* [[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍/ഐസാറ്റ്_ഓഗസ്റ്റ്29|എറണാംകുളം ഐസാറ്റ് ഓഗസ്റ്റ് 29 വ്യാഴം]]
* [[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍/പിജി_സെന്റര്‍_ഓഗസ്റ്റ്28|തൃശ്ശൂര്‍ പിജി സെന്ററില്‍ ഓഗസ്റ്റ് 28 ബുധന്‍]]
* [[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/IRC_25-08-2013|ഐആര്‍സ് വഴി ഓഗസ്റ്റ് 25 ഞായര്‍]]

== മുമ്പേ തീര്‍ക്കേണ്ടവ ==
*[[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/SMC_Camp|SMC ക്യാമ്പുകള്‍]]

== സ്പോണ്‍സര്‍ഷിപ്പ് ==

== മീഡിയ പബ്ലിസിറ്റി ==

=== സോഷ്യല്‍ മീഡിയ===

== കാര്യപരിപാടി ==

===ഒന്നാം ദിവസം ===
===രണ്ടാം ദിവസം===
===മൂന്നാം ദിവസം===
[[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി 2013/കാര്യപരിപാടി/വിക്കിസംഗമം]]

വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി 2013/കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍/പിജി സെന്റര്‍ ഓഗസ്റ്റ്28

2013-08-29T02:08:10Z

Pravs: മിനിറ്റ്സ് ചേര്‍ക്കുന്നു

പങ്കെടുത്തവര്‍ - സൂരജ് കേണോത്ത്, മനോജ് കെ, ആര്‍ക്ക് അര്‍ജുന്‍, രഞ്ജിത് പി, പ്രവീണ്‍ എ, ഋഷികേശ് കെബി, നന്ദജ വര്‍മ്മ, ജതിന്‍, വിഷ്ണു പ്രകാശ്

1. എസ്എംസി ക്യാമ്പ് - ഘടന, ആളുകള്‍ (more clarity needed)

2. ഒക്ടോബര്‍ 13 - 5 മണി വരെ എജിഎം

3. 5.30 മുതല്‍ short films + documentary
(Gundert - മറ്റുള്ളവ ഇനിയും തീരുമാനിയ്ക്കാനുണ്ടു്. മനോജും രഞ്ജിത്ത് മാഷും എം-സോണ്‍, നവചിത്ര എന്നിവരുമായി സംസാരിച്ചു് തീരുമാനിയ്ക്കും)

4. 14നു് 9.30 - കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറില്‍ ഹരിശ്രീ

5. ഉദ്ഘാടനം (ഉദ്ഘാടകന്‍ തീരുമാനമായില്ല)

6. ക്യാമ്പുകളുടെ ഉദ്ഘാടനം ഏകദേശ തീരുമാനം (കെ ജയകുമാര്‍, മലയാളം യൂണിവേഴ്സിറ്റി - നേരിട്ടോ സ്ട്രീം ചെയ്തോ പറ്റുമോന്നു് ശ്രമിയ്ക്കണം)
എത്രയും വേഗം കോളേജുകളുമായി തീരുമാനിച്ചു് നടപ്പിലാക്കണം

7. ഉദ്ഘാടന ദിവസത്തെ മറ്റു് പരിപാടികള്‍
മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ചരിത്രം, പ്രധാന വ്യക്തികള്‍, സംഘടനകള്‍, പ്രവര്‍ത്തനങ്ങള്‍ - മഹേഷ് മംഗലാട്ട്, അനിവര്‍ അരവിന്ദ്, വിമല്‍ ജോസഫ്

8. എക്സിബിഷന്‍ - ആന്‍ഡ്രോയിഡ്, വിക്കിപ്പീഡിയ, ബ്ലോഗിങ്ങ്, അച്ചടി (സ്ക്രൈബസ്, സീടെക്), ഫ്രീഡം ടോസ്റ്റര്‍ - ഫോണ്ടുകള്‍, മറ്റു് ടൂളുകള്‍, ഡിസ്ട്രിബ്യൂഷന്‍സ് പകര്‍ത്തിയെടുക്കാനുള്ള സംവിധാനം ഉണ്ടായിരിയ്ക്കണം.. 13 മുതല്‍ തയ്യാറാവണം

ചുമതല - നന്ദജ, ആര്‍ക്ക് അര്‍ജുന്‍ (എഞ്ചിനീയറിംഗ് വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥികളുടെ സഹായം തേടാം)

9. ജിസോക് അവതരണങ്ങള്‍ - 3. പ്രധാന ഹാളില്‍ തന്നെ

10. സാങ്കേതികവിദ്യയുമായി അധികം ഇടപഴകാത്ത ശ്രോതാക്കളെ എങ്ങനെ പിടിച്ചിരുത്താം?

പാനല്‍ ചര്‍ച്ചകള്‍ - അവതരിപ്പിയ്ക്കേണ്ട വിഷയങ്ങള്‍ - സ്വകാര്യത (ഡയാസ്പൊറ), സ്വതന്ത്ര സംസ്കാരം (ചാമ്പ), മറ്റു് ഇന്ത്യന്‍ ഭാഷകളിലെ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് സ്ഥിതി, ഭാഷയും സംസ്കാരവും സമൂഹവും, മാധ്യമങ്ങളും മലയാളവും

* ബോറടിപ്പിയ്ക്കരുതു്
* കൂടുതല്‍ ചര്‍ച്ചവേണം (ഏതൊക്കെ വിഷയങ്ങള്‍ എങ്ങനെ വേണമെന്നു്)
* സ്പെല്‍ചെക്ക് - മാധ്യമസുഹൃത്തുക്കള്‍ക്കു് പ്രധാനപ്പെട്ട വിഷയം
* ആക്സസിബിളിറ്റി
* പ്രാദേശികവത്കരണം

11. ക്യാമ്പുകളുടെ പ്രമേയങ്ങള്‍

ആരൊക്കെ വരും എന്നതടിസ്ഥാനമാക്കി പല പ്രമേയങ്ങള്‍

* ആര്‍ക്ക് അര്‍ജുന്‍ - കല, യൂസബിളിറ്റി, ക്രിയേറ്റീവ് കോമണ്‍സ് തുടങ്ങിയ അനുമതികള്‍, ഇന്‍ങ്ക്സ്കേപ് പോലുള്ള ടൂളുകള്‍, ജോലി സാധ്യതകള്‍
* ഇര്‍ഷാദ് - റൂബി ഓണ്‍ റെയില്‍സ്
* നന്ദജ - റെണ്ടറിങ്ങ് (രജീഷിന്റെ സഹായം വേണ്ടി വരും)
* ഋഷി - ശില്‍പ

സാധ്യതയുള്ള മറ്റുള്ളവര്‍ - ബാലു, ജിഷ്ണു, അനീഷ്, അഖിലന്‍, ശ്രീഹരി, ആദില്‍, പ്രസീദ, രാഹുല്‍, അബൂബക്കര്‍, സാദിഖ്, സുബിന്‍ സെബാസ്റ്റ്യന്‍, നളിന്‍, ശരത് ലക്ഷ്മണ്‍, ജൈസന്‍ നെടുമ്പാല/സജ്ജാദ് (ജിസ്, മാപ്പിങ്ങ്)

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം

2013-08-29T02:00:31Z

Pravs: കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍ ചേര്‍ത്തു

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സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി
ഒക്ടോബര്‍ 13,14,15
കേരള സാഹിത്യ അക്കാദമി തൃശ്ശൂര്‍

== പ്രചരണപരിപാടികള്‍ ==

ഓരോ ജില്ലയിലും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളെ കേന്ദ്രമാക്കി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്തുന്ന ഒരു പരിപാടിയെങ്കിലും നടത്തണം. നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കു് ഈ ശ്രമത്തില്‍ സഹായിയ്ക്കാനാകുമെങ്കില്‍ താഴെ പേരു് ചേര്‍ക്കുക.

=== തിരുവനന്തപുരം ===
=== കൊല്ലം ===
=== പാലക്കാടു് ===
* [[User:Pravs| പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]
=== തൃശ്ശൂര്‍ ===
* [[User:Manojk|Manojk]] ([[User talk:Manojk|talk]])

== കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍ ==

* [[വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി_2013/കൂടിയാലോചനകള്‍/പിജി_സെന്റര്‍_ഓഗസ്റ്റ്28|തൃശ്ശൂര്‍ പിജി സെന്ററില്‍ ഓഗസ്റ്റ് 28 ബുധന്‍]]
* ഐആര്‍സ് വഴി ഓഗസ്റ്റ് 25 ഞായര്‍

== സ്പോണ്‍സര്‍ഷിപ്പ് ==

== മീഡിയ പബ്ലിസിറ്റി ==

=== സോഷ്യല്‍ മീഡിയ===

== കാര്യപരിപാടി ==

===ഒന്നാം ദിവസം ===
===രണ്ടാം ദിവസം===
===മൂന്നാം ദിവസം===

== മുമ്പേ തീര്‍ക്കേണ്ടവ ==

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം

2013-08-26T04:57:55Z

Pravs:

സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി
ഒക്ടോബര്‍ 13,14,15
കേരള സാഹിത്യ അക്കാദമി തൃശ്ശൂര്‍

== കാര്യപരിപാടി ==

===ഒന്നാം ദിവസം ===
===രണ്ടാം ദിവസം===
===മൂന്നാം ദിവസം===

== മുമ്പേ തീര്‍ക്കേണ്ടവ ==

== പ്രചരണപരിപാടികള്‍ ==

ഓരോ ജില്ലയിലും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളെ കേന്ദ്രമാക്കി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്തുന്ന ഒരു പരിപാടിയെങ്കിലും നടത്തണം. നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കു് ഈ ശ്രമത്തില്‍ സഹായിയ്ക്കാനാകുമെങ്കില്‍ താഴെ പേരു് ചേര്‍ക്കുക.

=== തിരുവനന്തപുരം ===
=== കൊല്ലം ===
=== പാലക്കാടു് ===
* [[User:Pravs| പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]

== സ്പോണ്‍സര്‍ഷിപ്പ് ==

== മീഡിയ പബ്ലിസിറ്റി ==

=== സോഷ്യല്‍ മീഡിയ===

സ്വതന്ത്രമലയാളംകമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങിന്റെ ഒരു വ്യാഴവട്ടം

2013-08-26T04:56:51Z

Pravs: /* പ്രചരണപരിപാടികള്‍ */ എല്ലാ ജില്ലയിലും ഒരു പരിപാടിയെങ്കിലും നടത്തുക

സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് വാര്‍ഷികപൊതുപരിപാടി
ഒക്ടോബര്‍ 13,14,15
കേരള സാഹിത്യ അക്കാദമി തൃശ്ശൂര്‍

== കാര്യപരിപാടി ==

===ഒന്നാം ദിവസം ===
===രണ്ടാം ദിവസം===
===മൂന്നാം ദിവസം===

== മുമ്പേ തീര്‍ക്കേണ്ടവ ==

== പ്രചരണപരിപാടികള്‍ ==

ഓരോ ജില്ലയിലും എഞ്ചിനീയറിങ്ങ് കോളേജുകളെ കേന്ദ്രമാക്കി മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് പരിചയപ്പെടുത്തുന്ന ഒരു പരിപാടിയെങ്കിലും നടത്തണം. നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കു് ഈ ശ്രമത്തില്‍ സഹായിയ്ക്കാനാകുമെങ്കില്‍ താഴെ പേരു് ചേര്‍ക്കുക.

=== തിരുവനന്തപുരം ===
=== കൊല്ലം ===
=== പാലക്കാടു് ==
* [[User:Pravs| പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]

== സ്പോണ്‍സര്‍ഷിപ്പ് ==

== മീഡിയ പബ്ലിസിറ്റി ==

=== സോഷ്യല്‍ മീഡിയ===

2013-08-20T04:25:57Z

Pravs:

GSoC/2013/Project ideas

2013-04-26T12:56:06Z

Pravs: /* Developing Malayalam Calendar Support */

=Mentors=
# Santhosh Thottingal ('''santhosh''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Baiju M ('''baijum''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Praveen A ('''j4v4m4n''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Rajeesh K Nambiar ('''rajeeshknambiar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Vasudev Kammath ('''copyninja''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Jishnu Mohan ('''jishnu7''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Hrishikesh K.B ('''stultus''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anivar Aravind ('''anivar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anilkumar K V ('''anilkumar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Sajjad Anwar ('''geohacker''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Deepa V Gopinath ('''deepagopinath''' on irc.freenode.net)
# jain Basil ('''jainbasil''' on irc.freenode.net)

=Ideas for Google Summer of Code 2013=
* Please Read the [http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2013#FAQ FAQ]

<big>'''Apart from the following ideas , you can propose your own ideas'''</big>

If you want to propose an idea, please do it in [http://lists.smc.org.in/listinfo.cgi/discuss-smc.org.in project mailing list]>

== Internationalize SILPA project with Wikimedia jquery projects==
'''Project''':

SILPA project has many Indic language applications, but as of now, if somebody want to input in Indian languages, there is no built in tool in it. Similarly, the application is not internationalized. Both of these can be achieved by using the [//github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.ime] and [//github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.i18n] libraries from Wikimedia. A sample implementation is avaliable in our [http://smc.org.in website]. The i18n should be in the SILPA flask framework with a nice templating system. Similarly the interface should have webfonts using [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.webfonts jquery.webfonts] library.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12557 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': jquery, css, html5, python , flask
* '''Mentor''' : Hrishikesh K B
====More Details====
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.i18n jquery.i18n]
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.ime]
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.webfonts jquery.webfonts]

== A spell checker for Indic language that understands inflections ==
'''Project''':

SILPA project has a spellchecker written using python with a not so simple algorithm. But still it is not capable of handling inflection and agglutination occurring in Indian languages especially south Indian languages. The dictionary we have for Malayalam spellchecker have about 150000 words. Of course we can expand the dictionary, but that doesn't have much value since words can be formed in Malayalam or Tamil etc by joining multiple words. In addition to that, words get inflected based on grammar forms(sandhi), plural, gender etc. Hunspell has a system to handle this, but so far nobody succeeded in getting it working for multi level suffix stripping as required for Malayalam. Some times a Malayalam word can be formed by more than 5 words joining together. We will need a word splitting logic or a table taking care of all patterns. The project is to attempt solving this with hunspell. If that is not feasible(hunspell upstream is not active), develop an algorithm and implement it.

Recently Tamil attempted developing a spellchecker using Hunspell with multi level suffix stripping. You can see the result here https://github.com/thamizha/solthiruthi.
Our attempt should be first to use Hunspell to achieve spellchecking with agglutination and inflection. Probably it will require lot of scripting to generate suffix patterns, we can ask help from existing language communities too. If Hunspell has limitation with multi level suffxes- sometimes Indian languages require more than 5 levels of suffix stripping, we need to document it(bug and documentation) and try to attempt python based solution on top of SILPA framework.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12558 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': Average level understanding of grammar system of at least one Indian language
* Complexity: Advanced
* '''Mentor''' : Santhosh Thottingal

==Indic rendering support in ConTeXt==
'''Project''':

ConTeXt is another TeX macro system similar to LaTeX but much more suitable for design. To find more information about ConTeXt, see the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page. ConTeXt MKII have Indic language rendering support using XeTeX. but MKII is deprecated, and the new MKIV backend doesn't support Indic rendering yet. The aim of this project is to add support to Inidic rendering to ConTeXt MKIV. XeTeX is using Harfbuzz to do correct Indic rendering.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12559 Savannah Task]
* '''Expertise required''': Understanding of the TeX system, experience in either LaTeX or ConTeXt and basic understanding of Indic language rendering. MKIV uses Lua, familiarity with Lua, opentype specifications or Harfbuzz will be added advantage.

* '''Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar

* '''More Details''': ConTeXt mkii (deprecated) can work with XeTeX backend for Indic rendering. Here is a sample file:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[malayalam][script=mlym]
\setmainfont[Rachana][features=malayalam]
\starttext
മലയാളം \TeX ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ടൈപ്പ്സെറ്റ് ചെയ്തത്
\stoptext
Generate the output using command
texexec --xetex <file.tex>

==Automated Rendering Testing==
'''Project''':

Automated Rendering Testing system for Indic languages. Currently there exists 3 main rendering engines in computing world - Uniscribe of Microsoft, CoreText (Apple Advance Typography - AAT) of Apple and Harfbuzz for *nix systems. The Opentype font specification is maintained by Microsoft and implemented in Uniscribe, which is used as baseline for Harfbuzz. At present, there is no automated mechanism to determine if Harfbuzz is rendering complex Indic text correctly or not - someone expert in relevant language has to manually inspect the output from hb-view. The project aim is to identify and implement an automated method to test the rendering.
One method to do this might be to check the order of glyphs/glyph indices output by the rendering engine - this depends on the font too. A related topic is UTRRS

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12560 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': Knowledge of Indic language rendering and Opentype specification.
* '''Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar

====More Details====
* https://fedorahosted.org/utrrs/
* http://tdil-dc.in/utrrs/home/about

==Flask Based SILPA==
===Port remaining modules to the new flask based Silpa===
'''Project''': Silpa is being re-written using flask framework. Core part is almost complete. But most of the sub modules written under old framework are need to be ported to [http://flasksilpa-indic.rhcloud.com/ new framework].

'''Expertise required''': Python , Flask , Jinja , HTML, Javascript

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/ Jishnu

===Provide REST API for new flask based Silpa, including conversion of templates to this REST API from JSON RPC===
'''Project''': Silpa is now relying on JSONRPC. We need to, either completely move to REST API or provide REST API as an additional feature.

'''Expertise required''': Python , Flask , Jinja , HTML, Javascript

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

===Separate templates from SILPA and have it inside modules packaged for pypi===
'''Project''': The templates used as User Interface is part of SILPA. this should be separated and should come as a part of individual modules.

[https://github.com/copyninja/Silpa-Flask/issues/4 this] should give more idea on it

'''Expertise required''':python,Flask, HTML,Javascript,CSS,jinja

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

===add Urdu/Arabic support for all modules in SILPA.===

'''Expertise required''':python,Flask, HTML,Javascript,CSS,jinja

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev

== Converting indic processing modules currently in SILPA into Jquery library ==
'''Project''': Port some of the silpa algorithms to Jquery.

Several modules, alogorithms in SILPA project is done in python now. But porting them to javascript(jQuery) helps developers. For example, cross language transliteration can be done jquery too if we port the algorithm and transliteration rules. Similarly the approximate search can be ported. A flexibile fuzzy search on the web pages will be possible if we have the algorithm in jquery. ALternatively these js libraries can be used with node.js using server side js concept too.

'''Expertise required''': javascript,JQuery, python

'''Mentor''' :Jishnu

== Improving cross language transliteration system. ==
'''Project''':

Currently only Kannada and Malayalam are perfect rest all are first converted to Malayalam then to English due to lack of language internal. Also currently for English to Indic we use CMUDict so transliteration capability is limited to words in CMUDict only probably we could develop better method for English to Indic transliteration

CLDR has transliteration data for Indic languages. We can explore it and see the feasibility. For an intermediate representation of the scripts either IPA can be used or ISO 15919 standard can be used. All these must be supplemented with exception rules and special case handling to achieve more perfect result.

'''Expertise required''':python

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

== Improving the webfonts module in Silpa using jquery.webfonts and proving more Indic and complex fonts as part of it. ==
'''Project''':
* Currently Silpa provides 36 webfonts. add more fonts to this collection.
* Rewrote webfonts module to use the features of jquery.webfonts
* reate a repo as per jquery.webfonts specification
* Provide a clean api so that other websites can use our webfonts in their websites
* Document the usage
* Provide font preview and download options

'''Expertise required''':jQuery, Python , technical understanding about fonts

'''Mentor''' : Jishnu

==Building a system and API's for accessing and upadating Malayalamgrandham Bibligiography Data==
[http://www.malayalagrandham.com/about/ Malayala Grantha Vivaram] is a project intended to make available reliable bibliographic information on all Malayalam books published in Kerala and elsewhere. This Open data set contains Complete bibliography data from first Impression to 1995. This project wants to add following features to Malayalagrandham DB and build it as a bibliography web service
* Facility for adding/linking copyright expired books to malaylagrandha vivaram
* Adding ISBN & ISBN based seller discovery
* Building Interface for Publishers through with they can contribute their publication bibliography .
* Similar module for Libraries . That will be added to found in library section of each book
* A module for building qr code of bibliography with a malayalagrandham link
* Crowd sourced way for input and an approval queue interface for submissions.
* MARC21 and MARCXML support
* A dynamic visualisation interface for book information browsing
* proper API , and app work flow documentation

'''Expertise required''': Django / Ruby on Rails

'''Mentor''': Anivar

'''Related Links'''
* https://github.com/smc/malayalagrandham
* http://malayalagrandham.com/about

== Adding Braille Keyboard layouts for Indian Languages to m17n Library==

Project is building support for Bharati Braille keyboard layouts in GNU/Linux systemes. Bharati Braille standard is the official Braille standard in India. A regular QWERTY keyboard is used for data entry. SDF-JKL keys are used for six dots of Braille. This support need to be built as m17n layouts. This will enable visually challenged people who studied braille layouts to use GNU/Linux systems easily with the help of Audio feedback from TTS

====More Details====
* http://www.acharya.gen.in:8080/disabilities/bh_brl.php
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharati_Braille
* http://www.nongnu.org/m17n/

'''Mentor''': Anilkumar K V

==Developing Malayalam Calendar Support ==

This project is to build Malayalam Calendar support to KDE. Korganiser have support for many calendars like Saka, Hijri, Jalali. The project is to build support for Malayalam Calendar (Kolla Varsham)

Following tasks are part of this work .
* Building Malayalam (kollavarsham) Calendar support to KDE/KOrganiser.
* Add holidays and other special times.

====More Details====
* Understanding of Astronomical Algorithms
* http://malayalam.usvishakh.net/calendars/panj_theory.pdf
* https://github.com/smc/smc/tree/master/calendar/java/src/org/panchanga/indic

==== Starting Points ====

* [https://github.com/smc/smc/tree/master/calendar/kde Build KDE from source]
* Familiarize with how Saka and other calendars are done.

'''Mentor''': Praveen A, Mahesh M

==Language model and Acoustic model for Malayalam language for speech recognition system in CMU Sphinx==

CMU Sphinx is a large vocabulary, speaker independent speech recognition codebase and suite of tools, which can be used to develop speech recognition system in any language. To develop an automatic speech recognition system in a language, acoustic model and language model has to framed for that particular language. Acoustic models characterize how sound changes over time. It captures the characteristics of basic recognition units. The language model describes the likelihood, probability, or penalty taken when a sequence or collection of words is seen. It attempts to convey behavior of the language and tries to predict the occurrence of specific word sequences possible in the language. Once these two models are developed, it will be useful to every one doing research in speech processing. For Indian languages Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Marati, ASR systems have been developed using sphinx engine. In this project work is aimed at developing acoustic model and language model for Malayalam.

'''Mentor''': Deepa Gopinath
=== Background Reading ===

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gopalakr/publications/spdatabases_specom05.pdf 'Development of Indian Language Speech Databases for Large Vocabulary Speech Recognition Systems'], Gopalakrishna Anumanchipalli, Rahul Chitturi, Sachin Joshi, Rohit Kumar, Satinder Pal Singh, R.N.V. Sitaram, S P Kishore

* [http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/W/W12/W12-5808.pdf "Automatic Pronunciation Evaluation And Mispronunciation Detection Using CMUSphinx"], Ronanki Srikanth, James Salsman

* http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/
* http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/wiki/tutorial

* [http://www.ijarcsse.com "HTK Based Telugu Speech Recognition"], P. Vijai Bhaskar, AVNIET ,Hyderabad, Prof. Dr. S. Rama Mohan Rao, A.Gopi

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~araza/Automatic_Speech_Recognition_System_for_Urdu.PDF "Design and Development of an Automatic Speech Recognition System for Urdu"], Agha Ali Raza, M.Sc. Thesis, FAST‐National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences

* [http://www.ccis2k.org/iajit/PDF/vol.6,no.2/11IASRUCSS186.pdf "Investigation Arabic Speech Recognition Using CMU Sphinx System"], Hassan Satori1, 2, Hussein Hiyassat3, Mostafa Harti1, 2, and Noureddine Chenfour

* [http://www.try.idv.tw/static-resources/homework/pr/PR_Final_Report.pdf "Understanding the CMU Sphinx Speech Recognition System"], Chun-Feng Liao

==Enhancement of Indic Language Support in Scribus==

===Project Description===

Scribus is an Open Source program that brings professional page layout to Linux/UNIX. Find more about scribus [http://www.scribus.net here]. Indic Languages are not supported completely in Scribus as of now. As a result of the work done by a group of developers from India, there is a branch available in Scribus public git repo which supports Indic Languages. The aim of this idea is to Enhance the Indic language support solving the following issues:

* Harfbuzz is being used as a thrid party code in Scribus. Maintaining thirdparty code is a tedious task, this should be added as a dependency instead.
* Enhance hyphenation by adding hyphenation rules.

'''Expertise Required:''' Good understanding of C, C++, Qt, Harfbuz etc, cmake.

===More information===

* Branch indic in scribus public git repository. Clone url: git clone git://git.scribus.net/scribus.git
* [[Hyphenation]]
* [http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Git#To_sum_it_up_:_how_to_get_and_compile_a_specific_branch_:_indic_of_scribus.git Compile scribus indic branch]

'''Mentor''' : Jain Basil Aliyas (jainbasil in IRC)

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

GSoC/2013/Project ideas

2013-04-26T12:47:05Z

Pravs: /* Developing Malayalam Calendar Support */

=Mentors=
# Santhosh Thottingal ('''santhosh''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Baiju M ('''baijum''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Praveen A ('''j4v4m4n''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Rajeesh K Nambiar ('''rajeeshknambiar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Vasudev Kammath ('''copyninja''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Jishnu Mohan ('''jishnu7''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Hrishikesh K.B ('''stultus''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anivar Aravind ('''anivar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Anilkumar K V ('''anilkumar''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Sajjad Anwar ('''geohacker''' on irc.freenode.net)
# Deepa V Gopinath ('''deepagopinath''' on irc.freenode.net)
# jain Basil ('''jainbasil''' on irc.freenode.net)

=Ideas for Google Summer of Code 2013=
* Please Read the [http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2013#FAQ FAQ]

<big>'''Apart from the following ideas , you can propose your own ideas'''</big>

If you want to propose an idea, please do it in [http://lists.smc.org.in/listinfo.cgi/discuss-smc.org.in project mailing list]>

== Internationalize SILPA project with Wikimedia jquery projects==
'''Project''':

SILPA project has many Indic language applications, but as of now, if somebody want to input in Indian languages, there is no built in tool in it. Similarly, the application is not internationalized. Both of these can be achieved by using the [//github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.ime] and [//github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.i18n] libraries from Wikimedia. A sample implementation is avaliable in our [http://smc.org.in website]. The i18n should be in the SILPA flask framework with a nice templating system. Similarly the interface should have webfonts using [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.webfonts jquery.webfonts] library.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12557 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': jquery, css, html5, python , flask
* '''Mentor''' : Hrishikesh K B
====More Details====
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.i18n jquery.i18n]
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.ime jquery.ime]
* [https://github.com/wikimedia/jquery.webfonts jquery.webfonts]

== A spell checker for Indic language that understands inflections ==
'''Project''':

SILPA project has a spellchecker written using python with a not so simple algorithm. But still it is not capable of handling inflection and agglutination occurring in Indian languages especially south Indian languages. The dictionary we have for Malayalam spellchecker have about 150000 words. Of course we can expand the dictionary, but that doesn't have much value since words can be formed in Malayalam or Tamil etc by joining multiple words. In addition to that, words get inflected based on grammar forms(sandhi), plural, gender etc. Hunspell has a system to handle this, but so far nobody succeeded in getting it working for multi level suffix stripping as required for Malayalam. Some times a Malayalam word can be formed by more than 5 words joining together. We will need a word splitting logic or a table taking care of all patterns. The project is to attempt solving this with hunspell. If that is not feasible(hunspell upstream is not active), develop an algorithm and implement it.

Recently Tamil attempted developing a spellchecker using Hunspell with multi level suffix stripping. You can see the result here https://github.com/thamizha/solthiruthi.
Our attempt should be first to use Hunspell to achieve spellchecking with agglutination and inflection. Probably it will require lot of scripting to generate suffix patterns, we can ask help from existing language communities too. If Hunspell has limitation with multi level suffxes- sometimes Indian languages require more than 5 levels of suffix stripping, we need to document it(bug and documentation) and try to attempt python based solution on top of SILPA framework.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12558 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': Average level understanding of grammar system of at least one Indian language
* Complexity: Advanced
* '''Mentor''' : Santhosh Thottingal

==Indic rendering support in ConTeXt==
'''Project''':

ConTeXt is another TeX macro system similar to LaTeX but much more suitable for design. To find more information about ConTeXt, see the wiki http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page. ConTeXt MKII have Indic language rendering support using XeTeX. but MKII is deprecated, and the new MKIV backend doesn't support Indic rendering yet. The aim of this project is to add support to Inidic rendering to ConTeXt MKIV. XeTeX is using Harfbuzz to do correct Indic rendering.

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12559 Savannah Task]
* '''Expertise required''': Understanding of the TeX system, experience in either LaTeX or ConTeXt and basic understanding of Indic language rendering. MKIV uses Lua, familiarity with Lua, opentype specifications or Harfbuzz will be added advantage.

* '''Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar

* '''More Details''': ConTeXt mkii (deprecated) can work with XeTeX backend for Indic rendering. Here is a sample file:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[malayalam][script=mlym]
\setmainfont[Rachana][features=malayalam]
\starttext
മലയാളം \TeX ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ടൈപ്പ്സെറ്റ് ചെയ്തത്
\stoptext
Generate the output using command
texexec --xetex <file.tex>

==Automated Rendering Testing==
'''Project''':

Automated Rendering Testing system for Indic languages. Currently there exists 3 main rendering engines in computing world - Uniscribe of Microsoft, CoreText (Apple Advance Typography - AAT) of Apple and Harfbuzz for *nix systems. The Opentype font specification is maintained by Microsoft and implemented in Uniscribe, which is used as baseline for Harfbuzz. At present, there is no automated mechanism to determine if Harfbuzz is rendering complex Indic text correctly or not - someone expert in relevant language has to manually inspect the output from hb-view. The project aim is to identify and implement an automated method to test the rendering.
One method to do this might be to check the order of glyphs/glyph indices output by the rendering engine - this depends on the font too. A related topic is UTRRS

* '''[https://savannah.nongnu.org/task/index.php?12560 Savannah Task]'''
* '''Expertise required''': Knowledge of Indic language rendering and Opentype specification.
* '''Mentor''' : Rajeesh K Nambiar

====More Details====
* https://fedorahosted.org/utrrs/
* http://tdil-dc.in/utrrs/home/about

==Flask Based SILPA==
===Port remaining modules to the new flask based Silpa===
'''Project''': Silpa is being re-written using flask framework. Core part is almost complete. But most of the sub modules written under old framework are need to be ported to [http://flasksilpa-indic.rhcloud.com/ new framework].

'''Expertise required''': Python , Flask , Jinja , HTML, Javascript

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/ Jishnu

===Provide REST API for new flask based Silpa, including conversion of templates to this REST API from JSON RPC===
'''Project''': Silpa is now relying on JSONRPC. We need to, either completely move to REST API or provide REST API as an additional feature.

'''Expertise required''': Python , Flask , Jinja , HTML, Javascript

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

===Separate templates from SILPA and have it inside modules packaged for pypi===
'''Project''': The templates used as User Interface is part of SILPA. this should be separated and should come as a part of individual modules.

[https://github.com/copyninja/Silpa-Flask/issues/4 this] should give more idea on it

'''Expertise required''':python,Flask, HTML,Javascript,CSS,jinja

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

===add Urdu/Arabic support for all modules in SILPA.===

'''Expertise required''':python,Flask, HTML,Javascript,CSS,jinja

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev

== Converting indic processing modules currently in SILPA into Jquery library ==
'''Project''': Port some of the silpa algorithms to Jquery.

Several modules, alogorithms in SILPA project is done in python now. But porting them to javascript(jQuery) helps developers. For example, cross language transliteration can be done jquery too if we port the algorithm and transliteration rules. Similarly the approximate search can be ported. A flexibile fuzzy search on the web pages will be possible if we have the algorithm in jquery. ALternatively these js libraries can be used with node.js using server side js concept too.

'''Expertise required''': javascript,JQuery, python

'''Mentor''' :Jishnu

== Improving cross language transliteration system. ==
'''Project''':

Currently only Kannada and Malayalam are perfect rest all are first converted to Malayalam then to English due to lack of language internal. Also currently for English to Indic we use CMUDict so transliteration capability is limited to words in CMUDict only probably we could develop better method for English to Indic transliteration

CLDR has transliteration data for Indic languages. We can explore it and see the feasibility. For an intermediate representation of the scripts either IPA can be used or ISO 15919 standard can be used. All these must be supplemented with exception rules and special case handling to achieve more perfect result.

'''Expertise required''':python

'''Mentor''' : Vasudev/Jishnu

== Improving the webfonts module in Silpa using jquery.webfonts and proving more Indic and complex fonts as part of it. ==
'''Project''':
* Currently Silpa provides 36 webfonts. add more fonts to this collection.
* Rewrote webfonts module to use the features of jquery.webfonts
* reate a repo as per jquery.webfonts specification
* Provide a clean api so that other websites can use our webfonts in their websites
* Document the usage
* Provide font preview and download options

'''Expertise required''':jQuery, Python , technical understanding about fonts

'''Mentor''' : Jishnu

==Building a system and API's for accessing and upadating Malayalamgrandham Bibligiography Data==
[http://www.malayalagrandham.com/about/ Malayala Grantha Vivaram] is a project intended to make available reliable bibliographic information on all Malayalam books published in Kerala and elsewhere. This Open data set contains Complete bibliography data from first Impression to 1995. This project wants to add following features to Malayalagrandham DB and build it as a bibliography web service
* Facility for adding/linking copyright expired books to malaylagrandha vivaram
* Adding ISBN & ISBN based seller discovery
* Building Interface for Publishers through with they can contribute their publication bibliography .
* Similar module for Libraries . That will be added to found in library section of each book
* A module for building qr code of bibliography with a malayalagrandham link
* Crowd sourced way for input and an approval queue interface for submissions.
* MARC21 and MARCXML support
* A dynamic visualisation interface for book information browsing
* proper API , and app work flow documentation

'''Expertise required''': Django / Ruby on Rails

'''Mentor''': Anivar

'''Related Links'''
* https://github.com/smc/malayalagrandham
* http://malayalagrandham.com/about

== Adding Braille Keyboard layouts for Indian Languages to m17n Library==

Project is building support for Bharati Braille keyboard layouts in GNU/Linux systemes. Bharati Braille standard is the official Braille standard in India. A regular QWERTY keyboard is used for data entry. SDF-JKL keys are used for six dots of Braille. This support need to be built as m17n layouts. This will enable visually challenged people who studied braille layouts to use GNU/Linux systems easily with the help of Audio feedback from TTS

====More Details====
* http://www.acharya.gen.in:8080/disabilities/bh_brl.php
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharati_Braille
* http://www.nongnu.org/m17n/

'''Mentor''': Anilkumar K V

==Developing Malayalam Calendar Support ==

This project is to build Malayalam Calendar support to KDE. Korganiser have support for many calendars like Saka, Hijri, Jalali. The project is to build support for Malayalam Calendar (Kolla Varsham)

Following tasks are part of this work .
* Building Malayalam (kollavarsham) Calendar support to KDE/KOrganiser.

====More Details====
* Understanding of Astronomical Algorithms
* http://malayalam.usvishakh.net/calendars/panj_theory.pdf
* https://github.com/smc/smc/tree/master/calendar/java/src/org/panchanga/indic

==== Starting Points ====

* [https://github.com/smc/smc/tree/master/calendar/kde Build KDE from source]
* Familiarize with how Saka and other calendars are done.

'''Mentor''': Praveen A, Mahesh M

==Language model and Acoustic model for Malayalam language for speech recognition system in CMU Sphinx==

CMU Sphinx is a large vocabulary, speaker independent speech recognition codebase and suite of tools, which can be used to develop speech recognition system in any language. To develop an automatic speech recognition system in a language, acoustic model and language model has to framed for that particular language. Acoustic models characterize how sound changes over time. It captures the characteristics of basic recognition units. The language model describes the likelihood, probability, or penalty taken when a sequence or collection of words is seen. It attempts to convey behavior of the language and tries to predict the occurrence of specific word sequences possible in the language. Once these two models are developed, it will be useful to every one doing research in speech processing. For Indian languages Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Marati, ASR systems have been developed using sphinx engine. In this project work is aimed at developing acoustic model and language model for Malayalam.

'''Mentor''': Deepa Gopinath
=== Background Reading ===

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gopalakr/publications/spdatabases_specom05.pdf 'Development of Indian Language Speech Databases for Large Vocabulary Speech Recognition Systems'], Gopalakrishna Anumanchipalli, Rahul Chitturi, Sachin Joshi, Rohit Kumar, Satinder Pal Singh, R.N.V. Sitaram, S P Kishore

* [http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/W/W12/W12-5808.pdf "Automatic Pronunciation Evaluation And Mispronunciation Detection Using CMUSphinx"], Ronanki Srikanth, James Salsman

* http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/
* http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/wiki/tutorial

* [http://www.ijarcsse.com "HTK Based Telugu Speech Recognition"], P. Vijai Bhaskar, AVNIET ,Hyderabad, Prof. Dr. S. Rama Mohan Rao, A.Gopi

* [http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~araza/Automatic_Speech_Recognition_System_for_Urdu.PDF "Design and Development of an Automatic Speech Recognition System for Urdu"], Agha Ali Raza, M.Sc. Thesis, FAST‐National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences

* [http://www.ccis2k.org/iajit/PDF/vol.6,no.2/11IASRUCSS186.pdf "Investigation Arabic Speech Recognition Using CMU Sphinx System"], Hassan Satori1, 2, Hussein Hiyassat3, Mostafa Harti1, 2, and Noureddine Chenfour

* [http://www.try.idv.tw/static-resources/homework/pr/PR_Final_Report.pdf "Understanding the CMU Sphinx Speech Recognition System"], Chun-Feng Liao

==Enhancement of Indic Language Support in Scribus==

===Project Description===

Scribus is an Open Source program that brings professional page layout to Linux/UNIX. Find more about scribus [http://www.scribus.net here]. Indic Languages are not supported completely in Scribus as of now. As a result of the work done by a group of developers from India, there is a branch available in Scribus public git repo which supports Indic Languages. The aim of this idea is to Enhance the Indic language support solving the following issues:

* Harfbuzz is being used as a thrid party code in Scribus. Maintaining thirdparty code is a tedious task, this should be added as a dependency instead.
* Enhance hyphenation by adding hyphenation rules.

'''Expertise Required:''' Good understanding of C, C++, Qt, Harfbuz etc, cmake.

===More information===

* Branch indic in scribus public git repository. Clone url: git clone git://git.scribus.net/scribus.git
* [[Hyphenation]]
* [http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Git#To_sum_it_up_:_how_to_get_and_compile_a_specific_branch_:_indic_of_scribus.git Compile scribus indic branch]

'''Mentor''' : Jain Basil Aliyas (jainbasil in IRC)

'''Complexity''' : Advanced

Talk:Mailing List Policy

2013-04-18T11:06:30Z

Pravs: define what is irresponsible

Define what is considered irresponsible and specify who can flag someone as irresponsible. Is there a provision for appeal if some one does not agree with the moderation? --[[User:Pravs|Pravs]] ([[User talk:Pravs|talk]]) 04:06, 18 April 2013 (PDT)

ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍ ജിനേഷ് , SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ

2012-09-27T09:17:59Z

Pravs: small changes

{{prettyurl|Annual Meet 2012}}
സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങു് സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്‍ത്തകരുടെ വാര്‍ഷിക സമ്മേളനം സമ്മേളനം സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 29, 30 തിയ്യതികളില്‍ കുറ്റിപ്പുറം MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ച് നടത്താന്‍ തിരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു.
=='''കാര്യപരിപാടി '''==

MES കോളേജിലെ പൂര്‍വ്വ വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥിയായ ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മക്കായി CSE ഡിപാര്‍ട്ട്മെന്റ്‌ , SMC നയിക്കുന്ന ഒരു ചടങ്ങ് നടത്താന്‍ തീരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. ജിനേഷിന്റെയും, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ SMC യിലെക്കും, ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയറിലേയ്ക്കുമുള്ള സംഭാവനകളെയും ഓര്‍ത്തു നടത്തുന്ന ഈ ചടങ്ങ് സെപ്റ്റെംബര്‍ 29, 30 തീയതികളില്‍, MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ചാണ് നടത്തുവാനാണ് ഉദ്ദേശികുന്നത്. ഇതേ ചടങ്ങില്‍, ജിനേഷിന്റെ സംഭാവനകളും നിരീക്ഷണങ്ങളും അടങ്ങിയ പുസ്തകത്തിന്റെ പ്രകാശനവും ഉണ്ടകുന്നതാണ്. കൂടാതെ OCR എന്ന സാങ്കേതിക വിദ്യയുടെ മലയാളം പതിപ്പിനെ പരിചയപെടുത്തുന്നതിനോടൊപ്പം സാങ്കേതിക സംവാദങ്ങളും ഉള്‍കൊള്ളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. പരിപാടികള്‍ താഴെ.

[[പ്രമാണം:Logbook of an Observer (cover page).jpg|thumb|200px|Logbook of an Observer (കവര്‍ പേജ്) by ഹിരണ്‍ വേണുഗോപാല്‍]]

'''September 29,2012 (At Auditorium)'''

9:30am - 10:45am
* Talk on Contributions of Jineesh (Sebin, Naveen, Suresh)
- Sebin is editor of Malayalam internet news portal malayal.am. Jinesh wrote many articles in this portal.
- Naveen is Jinesh's friend from IIT Hyderabad
- Suresh was Jinesh's mentor for Google Summer of code
* Talk on Contributions of Shyam K (Sooraj, PP Ramachandran)
- Sooraj is a member of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing Community.
- PP Ramachandran is a poet and knew Shyam.
* Talk on SMC (Manoj K Mohan)
- Manoj K Mohan is active in Swathanthra Malayalam Computing and Malayalam wiki projects

10:45am - 11:15am
* Talk on OCR (Sathyan Master)
* Demonstration of OCR ( Naveen TS)

11.30am - 12.45am
* Matrics,CSE Association MESCE, Inaguration Ceremony ( Hussain K H)
* Book publishing event - പ്രശസ്ത കവി പിപി രാമചന്ദ്രന്‍ ജിനേഷിന്റെ അച്ഛനു് ഒരു പകര്‍പ്പു് കൈമാറും

2:00pm - 2:30pm
* A talk on Free software philosophy (അനീഷ് എ)

2:30pm - 3:30pm
* Basics of shell scripting (Nakul E)

3:30pm - 4:30pm
* Talk on Diaspora, Champa project, etc. (Hrishikesh K.B)
* Tears Of Steel - Swatahnthra Cinema show.

1:30pm - 4:30pm ( Parallel Session At CSE Seminar Hall)
* Workshop on OCR

5:30pm - 10:00pm( At CSE Lab)
* Hack night - start hacking/contributing with the help of people already contributing.

'''September 30,2012 (At CSE Lab)'''

9:30am - 12:30pm
* Introduction to Git and Github (Ershad K)

2:00pm - 4:30pm
*A session on remote desktop ,remote logging and other network tools (Anandh Pavithran, staff of MESCE)

=='''സ്ഥലത്തെത്താന്‍ '''==

* [http://osm.org/go/yn0Uv4gZp-- ഓപ്പണ്‍സ്ട്രീറ്റ്മാപ്പ്]

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== പ്രഖ്യാപനങ്ങളും അറിയിപ്പുകളും ==

=== പത്രക്കുറിപ്പുകള്‍ ===

=== വെബ്‌സൈറ്റ് വാര്‍ത്തകള്‍ ===
* നാലാമിടം - [http://www.nalamidam.com/archives/15658 വേഗങ്ങള്‍ക്കു മുമ്പേ പറന്നൊരാള്‍]

=== ഇവന്റ് പേജ് ===
*[http://identi.ca/event/9ff8dfbd-7201-4cd8-8e70-a40dde79771c ഐഡന്റിക്ക ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]
*[https://www.facebook.com/events/485994131413623/ ഫേസ്ബുക്ക് ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]
*[https://plus.google.com/events/cq1ndk8mva0pj57tv3dg1f3evtg ഗൂഗിള്‍ പ്ലസ്സ്]

=== ഹാഷ് ടാഗ് ===

=='''പങ്കെടുക്കുന്നവര്‍ '''==
# റിയാസ്. ടി. കെ
# അനീഷ് എ.
# [[user:Hrishikesh.kb|ഋഷികേശ് കെ ബി]]
# യാഹുല്‍ ഹമീദ്
#രാഹുല്‍. കെ. പി
#[http://www.aneez.in അനീസ് പി.]
#[[ഉപയോക്താവ്:Manojk|മനോജ്. കെ]]
#നീനു ബാല്‍
#പി.പി.ഹിമ
#രാഹുല്‍ രാജീവ്
#സഹല സിദ്ദീഖ്
#ഷഹനാസ്. പി
# നിയാസ് അഹമ്മദ്‌
# അനി പീറ്റര്‍
# [[User:Pravs|പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]
# ഹിരണ്‍ വേണുഗോപാല്‍
# ജയ്സെന്‍ നെടുമ്പാല
# രജീഷ് കെ നമ്പ്യാര്‍
# ഇര്‍ഷാദ് കെ

ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍ ജിനേഷ് , SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ

2012-09-25T13:18:58Z

Pravs: /* പങ്കെടുക്കുന്നവര്‍ */ പ്രവീണ്‍ വരുന്നുണ്ടു്

{{prettyurl|Annual Meet 2012}}
സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങു് സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്‍ത്തകരുടെ വാര്‍ഷിക സമ്മേളനം സമ്മേളനം സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 29, 30 തിയ്യതികളില്‍ കുറ്റിപ്പുറം MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ച് നടത്താന്‍ തിരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു.
=='''കാര്യപരിപാടി '''==

MES കോളേജിലെ പൂര്‍വ്വ വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥിയായ ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മക്കയി CSE ഡിപാര്‍ട്ട്മെന്റ്‌ , SMC നയിക്കുന്ന ഒരു ചടങ്ങ് നടത്താന്‍ തീരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. ജിനേഷിന്റെയും, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ SMC യിലെക്കും, ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയറിലേയ്ക്കുമുള്ള സംഭാവനകളെയും ഓര്‍ത്തു നടത്തുന്ന ഈ ചടങ്ങ് സെപ്റ്റെംബര്‍ 29, 30 തീയതികളില്‍, MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ചാണ് നടത്തുവാനാണ് ഉദ്ദേശികുന്നത്. ഇതേ ചടങ്ങില്‍, ജിനേഷിന്റെ സംഭാവനകളും നിരീക്ഷണങ്ങളും അടങ്ങിയ പുസ്തകത്തിന്റെ പ്രകാശനവും, ഒപ്പം ചില സാങ്കേതിക സംവാദങ്ങളും ഉള്‍കൊള്ളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. പരിപാടികള്‍ താഴെ.

'''September 29,2012'''

10:00am - 12:30 pm
* Talk on Contributions of Jineesh (Sebin, Naveen)
* Talk on Contributions of Shyam K (Sooraj, PP Ramachandran)
* A talk on SMC (Praveen)
* Book publishing event - പ്രശസ്ത കവി പിപി രാമചന്ദ്രന്‍ ജിനേഷിന്റെ അച്ചനു് ഒരു പകര്‍പ്പു് കൈമാറും

2:00pm - 2:45pm
* A talk on Free software philosophy (അനീഷ് എ)
2:45pm - 3:30pm
* Basics of shell scripting (Nakul E)
3:30pm - 4:30pm
* Talk on Diaspora,GSOC ,Champa project, etc. (Hrishikesh K.B)

5:30pm-10pm
* Hack night - start hacking/contributing with the help of people already contributing.

'''September 30,2012'''

9:30am - 12:30pm
* Introduction to Git and Github (Ershad K)
2:00pm - 4:30pm
*A session on remote desktop ,remote logging and other network tools (Anandh Pavithran, staff of MESCE)

=='''സ്ഥലത്തെത്താന്‍ '''==

* [http://osm.org/go/yn0Uv4gZp-- ഓപ്പണ്‍സ്ട്രീറ്റ്മാപ്പ്]

<googlemap version="0.9" lat="10.829365" lon="76.023256" zoom="18">
</googlemap>

== പ്രഖ്യാപനങ്ങളും അറിയിപ്പുകളും ==

=== പത്രക്കുറിപ്പുകള്‍ ===

=== വെബ്‌സൈറ്റ് വാര്‍ത്തകള്‍ ===
* നാലാമിടം - [http://www.nalamidam.com/archives/15658 വേഗങ്ങള്‍ക്കു മുമ്പേ പറന്നൊരാള്‍]

=== ഇവന്റ് പേജ് ===
*[http://identi.ca/event/9ff8dfbd-7201-4cd8-8e70-a40dde79771c ഐഡന്റിക്ക ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]
*[https://www.facebook.com/events/485994131413623/ ഫേസ്ബുക്ക് ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]

=== ഹാഷ് ടാഗ് ===

=='''പങ്കെടുക്കുന്നവര്‍ '''==
# റിയാസ്. ടി. കെ
# അനീഷ് എ.
# [[user:Hrishikesh.kb|ഋഷികേശ് കെ ബി]]
# യാഹുല്‍ ഹമീദ്
#രാഹുല്‍. കെ. പി
#[http://www.aneez.in അനീസ് പി.]
#[[ഉപയോക്താവ്:Manojk|Manojk]] ([[ഉപയോക്താവിന്റെ സംവാദം:Manojk|സംവാദം]])
#നീനു ബാല്‍
#പി.പി.ഹിമ
#രാഹുല്‍ രാജീവ്
#സഹല സിദ്ദീഖ്
#ഷഹനാസ്. പി
# നിയാസ് അഹമ്മദ്‌
# അനി പീറ്റര്‍
# [[User:Pravs|പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍]]

ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍ ജിനേഷ് , SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ

2012-09-25T12:54:31Z

Pravs: പ്രശസ്ത കവി പിപി രാമചന്ദ്രന്‍ ജിനേഷിന്റെ അച്ചനു് ഒരു പകര്‍പ്പു് കൈമാറും

{{prettyurl|Annual Meet 2012}}
സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങു് സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്‍ത്തകരുടെ വാര്‍ഷിക സമ്മേളനം സമ്മേളനം സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 29, 30 തിയ്യതികളില്‍ കുറ്റിപ്പുറം MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ച് നടത്താന്‍ തിരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു.
=='''കാര്യപരിപാടി '''==

MES കോളേജിലെ പൂര്‍വ്വ വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥിയായ ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മക്കയി CSE ഡിപാര്‍ട്ട്മെന്റ്‌ , SMC നയിക്കുന്ന ഒരു ചടങ്ങ് നടത്താന്‍ തീരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. ജിനേഷിന്റെയും, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ SMC യിലെക്കും, ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയറിലേയ്ക്കുമുള്ള സംഭാവനകളെയും ഓര്‍ത്തു നടത്തുന്ന ഈ ചടങ്ങ് സെപ്റ്റെംബര്‍ 29, 30 തീയതികളില്‍, MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ചാണ് നടത്തുവാനാണ് ഉദ്ദേശികുന്നത്. ഇതേ ചടങ്ങില്‍, ജിനേഷിന്റെ സംഭാവനകളും നിരീക്ഷണങ്ങളും അടങ്ങിയ പുസ്തകത്തിന്റെ പ്രകാശനവും, ഒപ്പം ചില സാങ്കേതിക സംവാദങ്ങളും ഉള്‍കൊള്ളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. പരിപാടികള്‍ താഴെ.

'''September 29,2012'''

10:00am - 12:30 pm
* Talk on Contributions of Jineesh (Sebin, Naveen)
* Talk on Contributions of Shyam K (Sooraj, PP Ramachandran)
* A talk on SMC (Praveen)
* Book publishing event - പ്രശസ്ത കവി പിപി രാമചന്ദ്രന്‍ ജിനേഷിന്റെ അച്ചനു് ഒരു പകര്‍പ്പു് കൈമാറും

2:00pm - 2:45pm
* A talk on Free software philosophy (അനീഷ് എ)
2:45pm - 3:30pm
* Basics of shell scripting (Nakul E)
3:30pm - 4:30pm
* Talk on Diaspora,GSOC ,Champa project, etc. (Hrishikesh K.B)

5:30pm-10pm
* Hack night - start hacking/contributing with the help of people already contributing.

'''September 30,2012'''

9:30am - 12:30pm
* Introduction to Git and Github (Ershad K)
2:00pm - 4:30pm
*A session on remote desktop ,remote logging and other network tools (Anandh Pavithran, staff of MESCE)

=='''സ്ഥലത്തെത്താന്‍ '''==

* [http://osm.org/go/yn0Uv4gZp-- ഓപ്പണ്‍സ്ട്രീറ്റ്മാപ്പ്]

<googlemap version="0.9" lat="10.829365" lon="76.023256" zoom="18">
</googlemap>

== പ്രഖ്യാപനങ്ങളും അറിയിപ്പുകളും ==

=== പത്രക്കുറിപ്പുകള്‍ ===

=== വെബ്‌സൈറ്റ് വാര്‍ത്തകള്‍ ===
* നാലാമിടം - [http://www.nalamidam.com/archives/15658 വേഗങ്ങള്‍ക്കു മുമ്പേ പറന്നൊരാള്‍]

=== ഇവന്റ് പേജ് ===
*[http://identi.ca/event/9ff8dfbd-7201-4cd8-8e70-a40dde79771c ഐഡന്റിക്ക ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]
*[https://www.facebook.com/events/485994131413623/ ഫേസ്ബുക്ക് ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]

=== ഹാഷ് ടാഗ് ===

=='''പങ്കെടുക്കുന്നവര്‍ '''==
# റിയാസ്. ടി. കെ
# അനീഷ് എ.
# [[user:Hrishikesh.kb|ഋഷികേശ് കെ ബി]]
# യാഹുല്‍ ഹമീദ്
#രാഹുല്‍. കെ. പി
#[http://www.aneez.in അനീസ് പി.]
#[[ഉപയോക്താവ്:Manojk|Manojk]] ([[ഉപയോക്താവിന്റെ സംവാദം:Manojk|സംവാദം]])
#നീനു ബാല്‍
#പി.പി.ഹിമ
#രാഹുല്‍ രാജീവ്
#സഹല സിദ്ദീഖ്
#ഷഹനാസ്. പി
# നിയാസ് അഹമ്മദ്‌
# അനി പീറ്റര്‍

ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍ ജിനേഷ് , SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ

2012-09-25T12:48:38Z

Pravs: ചെറിയ തിരുത്തുകള്‍

{{prettyurl|Annual Meet 2012}}
സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങു് സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്‍ത്തകരുടെ വാര്‍ഷിക സമ്മേളനം സമ്മേളനം സെപ്റ്റംബര്‍ 29, 30 തിയ്യതികളില്‍ കുറ്റിപ്പുറം MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ച് നടത്താന്‍ തിരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു.
=='''കാര്യപരിപാടി '''==

MES കോളേജിലെ പൂര്‍വ്വ വിദ്യാര്‍ത്ഥിയായ ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മക്കയി CSE ഡിപാര്‍ട്ട്മെന്റ്‌ , SMC നയിക്കുന്ന ഒരു ചടങ്ങ് നടത്താന്‍ തീരുമാനിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. ജിനേഷിന്റെയും, അദ്ദേഹത്തിന്റെ SMC യിലെക്കും, ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയറിലേയ്ക്കുമുള്ള സംഭാവനകളെയും ഓര്‍ത്തു നടത്തുന്ന ഈ ചടങ്ങ് സെപ്റ്റെംബര്‍ 29, 30 തീയതികളില്‍, MES കോളേജില്‍ വച്ചാണ് നടത്തുവാനാണ് ഉദ്ദേശികുന്നത്. ഇതേ ചടങ്ങില്‍, ജിനേഷിന്റെ സംഭാവനകളും നിരീക്ഷണങ്ങളും അടങ്ങിയ പുസ്തകത്തിന്റെ പ്രകാശനവും, ഒപ്പം ചില സാങ്കേതിക സംവാദങ്ങളും ഉള്‍കൊള്ളിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. പരിപാടികള്‍ താഴെ.

'''September 29,2012'''

10:00am - 12:30 pm
* Talk on Contributions of Jineesh (Sebin)
* A talk on SMC (Praveen)
* Book publishing event

2:00pm - 2:45pm
* A talk on Free software philosophy (അനീഷ് എ)
2:45pm - 3:30pm
* Basics of shell scripting (Nakul E)
3:30pm - 4:30pm
* Talk on Diaspora,GSOC ,Champa project, etc. (Hrishikesh K.B)

5:30pm-10pm
* Hack night - start hacking/contributing with the help of people already contributing.

'''September 30,2012'''

9:30am - 12:30pm
* Introduction to Git and Github (Ershad K)
2:00pm - 4:30pm
*A session on remote desktop ,remote logging and other network tools (Anandh Pavithran, staff of MESCE)

=='''സ്ഥലത്തെത്താന്‍ '''==

* [http://osm.org/go/yn0Uv4gZp-- ഓപ്പണ്‍സ്ട്രീറ്റ്മാപ്പ്]

<googlemap version="0.9" lat="10.829365" lon="76.023256" zoom="18">
</googlemap>

== പ്രഖ്യാപനങ്ങളും അറിയിപ്പുകളും ==

=== പത്രക്കുറിപ്പുകള്‍ ===

=== വെബ്‌സൈറ്റ് വാര്‍ത്തകള്‍ ===
* നാലാമിടം - [http://www.nalamidam.com/archives/15658 വേഗങ്ങള്‍ക്കു മുമ്പേ പറന്നൊരാള്‍]

=== ഇവന്റ് പേജ് ===
*[http://identi.ca/event/9ff8dfbd-7201-4cd8-8e70-a40dde79771c ഐഡന്റിക്ക ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]
*[https://www.facebook.com/events/485994131413623/ ഫേസ്ബുക്ക് ഇവന്റ് പേജ്]

=== ഹാഷ് ടാഗ് ===

=='''പങ്കെടുക്കുന്നവര്‍ '''==
# റിയാസ്. ടി. കെ
# അനീഷ് എ.
# [[user:Hrishikesh.kb|ഋഷികേശ് കെ ബി]]
# യാഹുല്‍ ഹമീദ്
#രാഹുല്‍. കെ. പി
#[http://www.aneez.in അനീസ് പി.]
#[[ഉപയോക്താവ്:Manojk|Manojk]] ([[ഉപയോക്താവിന്റെ സംവാദം:Manojk|സംവാദം]])
#നീനു ബാല്‍
#പി.പി.ഹിമ
#രാഹുല്‍ രാജീവ്
#സഹല സിദ്ദീഖ്
#ഷഹനാസ്. പി
# നിയാസ് അഹമ്മദ്‌
# അനി പീറ്റര്‍

ജിനെഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മകളില്‍, SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ

2012-08-19T17:34:34Z

Pravs: Pravs എന്ന ഉപയോക്താവ് ജിനെഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മകളില്‍, SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ എന്ന താൾ [[ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍, SMC...

#തിരിച്ചുവിടുക [[ജിനേഷിന്റെ ഓര്‍മ്മകളില്‍, SMC കൂട്ടായ്മ]]

2011-01-20T17:04:25Z

Pravs: final updates

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<jinsbond007> hope I am not late [20:59]
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: apeter santhosh around? [21:00]
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: എന്താ പരിപാടി?
<apeter> hello all
<apeter> good to see atleast a few :)
<apeter> need to conduct FUEL for Malayalam and hence thought to have a
discussion about it [21:01]
<santhosh> ഇത്രേം പേരു മത്യോ?
<apeter> atleast lets discuss things and then send the details to list [21:02]
<santhosh> http://wiki.smc.org.in/Glossary
<apeter> j4v4m4n, ?
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<apeter> santhosh, we have already discussed and planned to have the
FUEL... :)
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: jinsbond007 apeter നമസ്കാരം [21:03]
<apeter> നമസ്ക്കാരം
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: ah finally, നമസ്കാരം :)
<apeter> now things to discuss is when to have, who all to be invited for this
meeting? I mean any language experts ...
<apeter> what say? [21:04]
<j4v4m4n> apeter: ഏതെങ്കലും സ്ഥലവും സമയവും നിര്‍ദ്ദേശിയ്ക്കൂ
<apeter> j4v4m4n, jinsbond007 santhosh I was thinking whether we can have this
during NITC meet? [21:05]
ERC> /nick ജാവാമാന്‍
<apeter> is it possible?
*** ജാവാമ is an
erroneous nickname
<apeter> what do you guys think?
<santhosh> apeter: physical meaning required?
<apeter> santhosh, yes
<j4v4m4n> apeter: I will be in NITC from 31st Jan to 6th Feb
* apeter has requested Rajesh to join
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: yes, especially if we are onvolving language experts
[21:06]
* apeter has requested Rajesh to join this online meeting
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: we can keep irc open as an option for people who cannot
make it physically [21:07]
<apeter> j4v4m4n, I agree with you :)
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: santhosh when is fossmeet? [21:08]
<santhosh> apeter: j4v4m4n, can we baseline our glossary? or do we need to get
comments on the entries in offline way?
<jinsbond007> I don't remember in feb or march?
<j4v4m4n> apeter: but Feb first week would be too soon for arranging a meeting
of this sort
<apeter> jinsbond007, 4th-6th Feb
<jinsbond007> ok
<apeter> j4v4m4n, we shall give it a try..
<santhosh> such as, getting the comments in printed copies
<jinsbond007> anyway, I won't be available for any physical meetings due to my
busy schedule for I think some 4 months [21:09]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: we can do both as I mentioned
<apeter> j4v4m4n, if its too much of inconvenience we shall postpond to 2nd or
3rd week Feb
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: physical component has to be there
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<santhosh> j4v4m4n: btw, by language experts, ആരെയാ ഉദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നതു്? കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറില്‍
മലയാളം ആദ്യമായി കാണുന്നവര്‍ക്ക് പ്രായോഗികമായി നിര്‍ദ്ദേശങ്ങള്‍ തരാന്‍ കഴിയുമോ? [21:11]
<rajeshr> Hi Everybody
<j4v4m4n> rajeshr: hi
<santhosh> the contexts are completely different
<apeter> hi rajeshr
<rajeshr> Sorry for late!
<apeter> rajeshr, no worries :)
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: apeter first these people should know the translation
and why we do it the way we do
<santhosh> I am not sayin that they should know how to use computers in
malayalam
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: but most of them would have familiarity with computers
<santhosh> but minimal exposure and introduction is required right? [21:12]
<apeter> rajeshr, maybe you can give an idea about FUEL. How do you normally
conduct the meet etc etc etc
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: the familiarity I don't think is not to be with
computer but the malayalam interface in computer and who are the
in tented audience
<rajeshr> okay apeter! [21:13]
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<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: santhosh we should have normal computer users too, the
idea is to get some kind of acceptance when people see experts are
there in the list, though I agree, it may not be necessary
<rajeshr> As we are from translation/localization filed we know some problem
during trans
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<rajeshr> one is of standadization and consistency
<j4v4m4n> the idea is computer users, who are not net savvy and would not be
able to come to an irc meeting for whatever reason should be
involved [21:15]
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<santhosh> disconnected.. did somebody answer my qn? sorry
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: I am not against involving them, in fact most of the
time, we does consult people like hussain sir off the list
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: welcome
<j4v4m4n> sebinaj: hi
<sebinaj> hi
<apeter> hi sebinaj :) [21:16]
<sebinaj> was struggling with the lost passphrase :D
<sebinaj> problems of registering a nick
<sebinaj> can i read the log?
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: not just hussain sir, anyone interested in seeing
Malayalam in computer should be given a chance to say their opinion
<j4v4m4n> sebinaj: you could have logged in without password :) [21:17]
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<santhosh> j4v4m4n: thats what. we cannot get words contribution from people
who are very new to computers
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: anyway I guess we both got the point :)
* j4v4m4n copying minutes on the wiki
<santhosh> and even if they give it will be out of context
<santhosh> what I would suggest is this [21:18]
<jinsbond007> my point was to use their expertise effectively, we should be
able to give them an idea of what the interface is
<santhosh> the FUEL program should have 2 parts
<jinsbond007> and who are the supposed audience for the Malayalam interface
<santhosh> one is a training(introduction) to all participants. say we conduct
in an arts college [21:19]
<santhosh> in the second part, or as part of the traning, we show the
interface to them. ask them to use
<santhosh> get their user experience suggestion
<santhosh> I hope once they see applications in malayalam, naturally comments
will come
<apeter> rajeshr, any comments ?
<santhosh> rather than giving a word list [21:20]
<santhosh> in that way, both of us can benefit
<santhosh> we get a localized application reviewed
<santhosh> and additions to our glossary/fule [21:21]
<santhosh> they get training
<santhosh> comments?
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<j4v4m4n> minutes http://wiki.smc.org.in/Meeting/IRC/2011Jan20 [21:22]
<rajeshr> apeter, I think translation of anything cannot be left for normal
audience, they can have several suggestions
<santhosh> rajeshr: correct
<rajeshr> so i Think first we should sit with passionate localisers,
translators, lingusits, journalist and create a good interface
<jinsbond007> rajeshr: if we are doing translations for them, they should
actually be involved na?
<j4v4m4n> anoop: hi [21:23]
<rajeshr> I don't think we have any problem in involving them, but out of one
workshop like FUEL we can come with a list where most of the people
can be agrre [21:24]
<rajeshr> like what we did for : http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/fuel/
<rajeshr> https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/
<anoop> hii
<apeter> hello anoop [21:25]
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: we started our glossary from gnome glossary, but gnome
glossary was never maintained, so we were essentially forking the
glossary
<rajeshr> j4v4m4n, FUEL is not exactly a glossary...its strings coming out of
3-4 levels of menus from major apps [21:26]
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: our aim is better interface, right? discussing around a
wordlist will be completely out of context. so introduce malayalam
desktop the lang experts, get their feedback
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: with actively maintained fuel list, shared among many
languages, we can have an uptodate glossary, my earlier lack of
interest to fuel was because I thought we could keep gnome glossary
updated, but that effort did not reach anywhere
<rajeshr> so it is one type of review as well
<santhosh> naturally that will become our corrected commonly used translations
<rajeshr> we have selected strings from pidgin, firefox, email clients,
OpenOffice, gdm, menus etc and combined in a list! [21:27]
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: yes, I agree that is important, but which should be the
starting point? a commnly used words list or some localised app?
[21:28]
<santhosh> rajeshr: in previous fuel meetings, how was it done? preparing a
word list and discussing one by one? or was that meeting conducted
by introducing those applications and current translation to
participants?
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: we need both [21:29]
<rajeshr> word list is already there:
<rajeshr> http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/fuel/fuel_pot/
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: I would suggest some commonly used localized application
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: ok so lets do that first in a meeting - just to get them
started and then work on the word list
<rajeshr> santhosh, we sat together for 2 days and discussded one by one
[21:30]
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: I will agree with santhosh, they need to see where the
string goes [21:31]
<rajeshr> eg. https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/wiki/fuel-maithili
<j4v4m4n> rajeshr: lets do an initial introductory meeting, and then fuel
list, what say? [21:32]
<rajeshr> santhosh, j4v4m4n, jinsbond007: we have already conetxt for the
strings :
https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/attachment/wiki/attachments/Fuel_context.ods?format=raw
<rajeshr> j4v4m4n, its upon ml community how you can go
<apeter> I agree with j4v4m4n [21:33]
<j4v4m4n> rajeshr: that has good context information and not a wordlist
[21:34]
ERC> /not just a wordlist/
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<rajeshr> j4v4m4n,
http://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/fuel/fuel_pot/fuel_en_US.pot
<rajeshr> ^^
<j4v4m4n> /not just a wordlis/
<j4v4m4n> rajeshr: yes we can use spreadsheet for discussion adn po for entry
[21:35]
<rajeshr> this is word list and that ods file is context for that one
<jinsbond007> rajeshr: the work is great kudos :)
<rajeshr> thanks jinsbond007 ! [21:36]
<rajeshr> http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/guide/existing_glossaries
<santhosh> I think a spreadsheet is not enough. The problem is the proposed
participants will not get any idea what is is meant by this
File->New->... etc
<rajeshr> this project consider FUEL project as a terminology dev project
<santhosh> we cannot do such assumption about their knowledge about the
applications. Live experience with the applications or sitting with
somebody who demo it is required [21:37]
<santhosh> sebinaj: ?
<jinsbond007> santhosh: that I agree
<jinsbond007> they need to see the application
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: ershad anoop any comments?
<rajeshr> santhosh, right we shd give demo [21:38]
<rajeshr> we did in Hindi:
https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/wiki/fuel-hindi-photovoice
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: yes, so lets do an intital session introducing people to
localised environments and ask for live feedback and a second
session for fuel list
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: in a single day? [21:39]
<ershad> jinsbond007: I lost track in between and i'm yet to understand what
FUEL really is and how it works :)
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: no many days apart
<jinsbond007> ok
<santhosh> "Outline - Open office -Oocalc – Data – Outline. You can create an
outline of your data."
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: first in introduction, I can assume many would not be
using a malayalam interface
<santhosh> unless we demo it, this does not make any sense
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<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: it would act as a kind of trigger and when we say they
can chnage translation they don't like it would be channelising
their frustration or unhappiness to positively engaging with
community to improve translation quality
<jinsbond007> santhosh: the problem is again an outline comes from some other
application
<anoop> now i am reading about FUEL
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<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: the thing we should not forget is, its not a fancy
project but for increasing accessibility [21:41]
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: they should understand who the target audience is :)
[21:42]
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<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: after the first workshop, then another workshop to
teach them how to effectively channelize their frustration?
[21:43]
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<sebinaj> i didn't knew, what fuel is. was reading about it. [21:44]
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: hope got an idea, the thing is, you don't really need
to know what fuel is, its more about how we should go about with
translations [21:45]
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: fuel is a way to standardize the translations
<sebinaj> hmm... thanks jinsbond007 [21:46]
<santhosh> can somebody update the logs, i missed some parts
<anoop> fuel is way to standardize the localized strings in different
apps. right? [21:47]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: first workshop would cover how to channelise part - ie,
get involved with the community
<rajeshr> sebinaj, pl visit this article as well:
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/149038
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: +1
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: so that should introduce the localized desktop to them
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: second is actually translation workshop
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: sanal_madatheth minutes here
http://wiki.smc.org.in/Meeting/IRC/2011Jan20 [21:48]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: first meet would cover introduction and translation
workshops, second one is then sitting for fuel wordlist [21:49]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: santhosh by second meeting they should have an idea
<j4v4m4n> first meeting should demo all applications used in fule list and
encourage people to use Malayalam interface in their home systems,
and for actual fule wordlist discussion we should only invite people
who actually use a Malayalam interface or who have not used computer
yet [21:50]
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: but practically, this will work only if we can conduct two
such meetings in same place with same audience [21:51]
<santhosh> so how to go about that [21:52]
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: yes, only that will be useful
<jinsbond007> santhosh: I was just going to say that :)
<apeter> lets have the first meeting at nitc
<apeter> will that work?
<jinsbond007> it will work if we use the same host to some extent I guess
<j4v4m4n> apeter: it should work, but we need to publicise and get maximum
people to participate [21:53]
<jinsbond007> but still getting same audience will be difficult, but not
impossible
<santhosh> if we can conduct such program in association with an "arts
college", i think it would work
<apeter> j4v4m4n, we can.. we have another two weeks in hand
<santhosh> malayalam dept. of an arts college
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: especially people who use malayalam interface and not
used computer [21:54]
<apeter> santhosh, any college suggestion?
<jinsbond007> santhosh: then we need to think about infrastructure too
<apeter> we can invite them to nitc for the initial meeting
<jinsbond007> what do we need to conduct work shop and all
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: for second part, the only requirement is people who are
already using Malayalam interface, that means even if some people
missed first meeting or some people started using Malayalam
interface after first meeting, they can still come for second
meeting, only condition for second meeting is, we won't entertain
any new Malayalam interface users at all
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: ok [21:55]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: I mean those who would see a Malayalam interface for
the first time at the second meeting is a no no [21:56]
<santhosh> we should see some colleges around calicut
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: but if they have never used a computer, that should be
fine
<jinsbond007> santhosh: the college in calicut, where we conducted a camp?
<jinsbond007> what was it devagiri college?
<apeter> j4v4m4n, you will be there from 30th right? will you be able to
invite malayalam dept from any arts college in calicut?
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: fossmeet advantage is that, they are already getting a
good crowd assembled, why not use it? Hari Vishnu also can join us
in NITC [21:57]
<j4v4m4n> apeter: I will be busy with Chamba project, I can only spare time
for actual meeting
<j4v4m4n> apeter: Sooraj Kenoth and Mahesh Mangalat should be able to help
with that [21:58]
<apeter> j4v4m4n, okay will get that done then [21:59]
<jinsbond007> so we agreed on it?
<jinsbond007> apeter: can you summarize?
<j4v4m4n> apeter: talk to fossmeet folks if they can give us one session
<jinsbond007> we can move to next item then :)
<j4v4m4n> apeter: you know VA Amarnath, right? [22:00]
<apeter> j4v4m4n, okay. will do that tomorrow
<apeter> j4v4m4n, no I dont :(
<j4v4m4n> apeter: no problem just mail them, keep me in cc
<apeter> j4v4m4n, sure will do that [22:01]
<j4v4m4n> apeter: send it to fossmeet list
<apeter> alrught
<j4v4m4n> apeter: ok summarise the plan
<apeter> j4v4m4n, send mail to smc, fossmeet on the plan to conduct an
introductory meeting for FUEL during nitc [22:02]
<j4v4m4n> during fossmeet in nitc
<j4v4m4n> :)
<apeter> :( [22:03]
<apeter> on last day - 6th?
<jinsbond007> FUEL for Malayalam
<apeter> yes
<jinsbond007> and its not really FUEL for Malayalam we might discuss,
<jinsbond007> it will be about translation and interfaces and methodology we
follow [22:04]
<apeter> also invite a malayalam department from a good arts college in
Calicut
<j4v4m4n> Malayalm translation quality is better than FUEL for Malayalam
<jinsbond007> find out if they can host us for the second session
<j4v4m4n> translation quality, review, community process, getting involved
<apeter> jinsbond007, you mean with the college? [22:05]
<jinsbond007> apeter: yeah
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: lets think about second session later
<apeter> jinsbond007, okay
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: ok
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: may be even in another place
<jinsbond007> apeter: j4v4m4n you see how important is to summarize :)
<apeter> jinsbond007, true :)
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: hmm
<jinsbond007> nobody has any other comment?
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<j4v4m4n> we need to create a press release
<apeter> oh yes
<j4v4m4n> may be posters too
* jinsbond007 interestingly me who haven't done a single translation so far is
giving lot of suggestions
<apeter> okay [22:07]
* j4v4m4n anyone who uses translated interface can give good suggestions
<j4v4m4n> sebinaj: can you help with a press release?
<j4v4m4n> ershad: anoop poster? [22:08]
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: ershad anoop ping? [22:09]
<ershad> j4v4m4n: Sure, I will try.
<j4v4m4n> ershad: thanks, get help from people on smc list
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<apeter> hope we have covered everything [22:11]
<jinsbond007> I have a little other translation related issue to discuss
[22:12]
<j4v4m4n> apeter: I guess so
<jinsbond007> its of gnu.org translations
<apeter> please go ahead
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: shoot
<jinsbond007> I did a review of 17 or so articles available, and put it up on
gitorious, back in november
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: I think we can include that also in the session, if
time permits ie, optionally
<santhosh> before that, j4v4m4n we are yet to get our access to www-ml.. no
reply from savannah guys [22:13]
<apeter> rajeshr, so here we go... Thanks a lot for your time :)
<ershad> j4v4m4n: Ok etta.
<apeter> (guys sorry to interrupt)
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: that we will tackle separately
<rajeshr> thanks apeter :-) [22:14]
<rajeshr> thanks a lot to all!
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: we should go on #savannah and discuss
<jinsbond007> I think its important that we push the updated translations
upstream
<santhosh> rajeshr: thanks!
<jinsbond007> rajeshr: thanks :)
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: yes
<jinsbond007> http://gitorious.org/www-ml-clone
<rajeshr> First time I came here, great community
<jinsbond007> has the current translation
<rajeshr> I learnt lot!
<rajeshr> santhosh, j4v4m4n thanks to you as well! [22:15]
<rajeshr> jinsbond007, thanks!
<j4v4m4n> rajeshr: great to have you here, thanks!
<jinsbond007> sebinaj: there?
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: let him reply in email or let someone else volunteer
[22:16]
<apeter> rajeshr, see you tomorrow :)
<j4v4m4n> lets call it a meeting folks, I have to go and cook!
<rajeshr> okay ani!
<rajeshr> bye all!
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<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: santhosh the thing is, even in last meeting we decided
to do the review and typesetting :)
<apeter> j4v4m4n, thank you. see you tomorrow
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: for www-ml lets go to #savannh and discuss
<jinsbond007> now its 3 nd half months, so shouldn't we start talking about
the typesetting and book?
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: ok lets talk then [22:18]
<santhosh> jinsbond007: how many we have?
<jinsbond007> what articles?
<santhosh> sebinaj had offered some help in review/edit last time
<santhosh> jinsbond007: yes
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<jinsbond007> santhosh: 17
<santhosh> jinsbond007: we had some important articles not translated (IIRC)
<jinsbond007> santhosh: yes, that's what I was writing [22:20]
<jinsbond007> how should we go about selecting articles?
<jinsbond007> should we do more translation?
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: lets ask for volunteeres for individual articles one at
a time
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: send the current list to the list and ask for
suggestions
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: ok [22:21]
<jinsbond007> I think I did it two months ago :) will resent the mail once
again
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: :( [22:22]
<santhosh> jinsbond007: I think if we have articles list ready we can type
set. we have പ്രസാധനക്കുറിപ്പ്, അവതാരിക...all are ready
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: will discuss it in calicut meeting as well
<santhosh> TT Srikumar had written that
<santhosh> and it even came in Madhyamam weekly that time [22:23]
<jinsbond007> santhosh: I remember, and just read it again today on the book
shyam typeset
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: lets start the tetex/lyx file in our git, if no one
willing to work with another format
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: tex is enough. [22:24]
<santhosh> and jinsbond007 got it working perfectly in his laptop
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: then you do it :) I'm comfortable with lyx - it is latex
frontend
<jinsbond007> santhosh: I am facing some issues with the hyphenation, some
things are going out of bound
<jinsbond007> checking it out [22:25]
<jinsbond007> but other wise, I am getting all rendering right
<santhosh> if tex is not working, pypdflib is there :p
<jinsbond007> lyx I haven't tried, heard its easier to use than tex
<jinsbond007> lemme see, shyam got perfect typesetting, so its not impossible
:)
<santhosh> jinsbond007: that did not had hyphenation [22:26]
<santhosh> j4v4m4n: at office or at home? [22:27]
<j4v4m4n> lyx is whyswig
<j4v4m4n> santhosh: office
<j4v4m4n> wysiwyg
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: ok choose your format and start typesetting in git
<j4v4m4n> I have to go now [22:28]
<j4v4m4n> Ich bin hungry!
<apeter> :)
<jinsbond007> j4v4m4n: the thing is, my blood count is up :)
<jinsbond007> so will get admitted soon and will be back only after 10 days
<santhosh> no hurry jinsbond007
<apeter> jinsbond007, take care :)
<jinsbond007> most probably on Monday next cycle will start [22:29]
<jinsbond007> so if some can review current translation in the mean time, it
will be great
<santhosh> apeter: who will put full meeting log? I dont have [22:30]
<j4v4m4n> jinsbond007: take your time
<apeter> santhosh, j4v4m4n has taken care of it :)
<j4v4m4n> bye everyone [22:32]
<j4v4m4n> good night
<apeter> good night prabi
<apeter> pravi :)
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2010-12-07T14:30:12Z

Pravs:

Malayalam IDN Policy Draft by CDAC - Critique by SMC

The Draft policy document by CDAC is available [http://wiki.smc.org.in/images/7/7b/INTERNATIONALIZED_DOMAIN_NAMES-MALAYALAM.pdf here ]

[[File:Response_to_C-DAC-IDN-Critique.pdf | CDAC's response dated 2/12/2010]]

== Introduction ==

== Issues with the approach and process ==
=== Response to CDAC's response to the critique ===
We are not satisfied with the answers given to our questions. The response seems to be prepared by somebody who does not know the scope of IDN. The replies are based on things that are not at all related to IDN. We have tried to explain why your answers are completely wrong. See the responses given below. CDAC seems to confused about the Malayalam orthography, Unicode standard, Font , rendering etc.

One of the main thing that we want to emphasis is, standards should not drafted based on the existing applications. The response from CDAC says, it did extensive study on existing browsers and their address bar behavior. Even one variant table entry is associated with Microsoft Internet Explores buggy behavior. Sorry to say that this is ridiculous. Standards and Policies are for the implementations in the future. It is the guidelines for the applications to be developed in future. It is not a study of existing application behavior. This is a trivial fact any person with minimal technical qualification is aware of. CDAC seems to be missing this point.

Orthography is style of writing. It is a users choice for visualizing the content. The content remains same whether one use traditional orthography or new orthography. What IDN policy need to take care is avoiding all cases of spoofing. That should be independent of orthography. IDN can not assume , or cannot enforce that a user should be using only a particular font with Internet browsers. The CDAC's draft policy makes such a false assumption. It states that Malayalam IDN is not designed for Traditional orthography. This argument comes from ignorance about the basic concepts of Language technology. Unicode does not define anything about Malayalam new and old orthography. It is all about users choice. When CDAC's policy states "Modern Orthography", it should define what it is. It is not all defined technically or even in usage pattern. It is just a users convenience.

We demand a process to re-draft this policy document. This is the age of open standards. CDAC should take initiatives to consult with all stakeholdes- language experts, language computing experts, developers.

== Criticism on the policy ==
=== General Comments===
# The variant table is defined based on random glyphs taken from a list of 900+ possible glyphs for Malayalam. No explanation is given on how two entries in variant table become homo morphs. One entry in variant table is just because of the fact that one is mirror image of other. Since b, d are not excluded from English, there's no need to exclude mirror imaged glyphs in variant table.
#: CDAC's Response: The IDN system devised for Malayalam is based only on the modern script. It doesn't address the old script or the fonts based on old script. Also, a detailed study was done before proposing homographs in each of the languages. The study included observing the visual form of the conjunct in the point size of the Address bars of major browsers. The mirror imaged nature of the glyphs was not the criterion for the two glyphs to be qualified as variants.
#:: Since CDAC took that much effort to check visual spoofing, i just like to know the basic glyph set in modern orthography of Malayalam --[[User:Jinesh.k|Jinesh.k]] 06:26, 4 December 2010 (PST)
#:: Please understand that IDN has no relation with the orthography. Orthography is kind of writing style and decided by user's choice on fonts. It is at higher level and close to user, while IDN has nothing to do about the choice of fonts by users. The distinction between Modern Orthography and Old orthography is not technically defined. Unicode or Unicode capable applications never bother about whether user use an Old lipi font or Traditional font. CDAC or IDN policy cannot say that user should use only a certain set of fonts to work with IDN. If CDAC says IDN does not support traditional orthography, it does not make any sense at all for some one who know what is Unicode, Orthography and IDN. - [[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 23:53, 4 December 2010 (PST)
#:: Forcing a user to chose a particular orthography font based on bugs in one browser is not acceptable. IDN standard should not ban most popular fonts currently in use, majority of digital Malayalam users are happy with traditional fonts and there is no reason to stop it. CDAC cannot and should not decide what fonts a user choses in his/her computer. IDN should work with any Malayalam font, which complies with Unicode version 5.0 and correctly implement Malayalam language rules for conjunct formation. Unicode 5.1 is controvercial and many issues are not answered and it would be a tragedy for Malayalam language if we decide to follow unicode 5.1 blindly without considering its impact on Malayalam language for years to come. [[User:Pravs|Pravs]] 06:30, 7 December 2010 (PST)
#:: If mirror image was not a criteria for variant table, explain how ത്സ/ഝ , സ്സ/ഡ്ഡ qualify to the variant table? - [[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:00, 5 December 2010 (PST)
#:: Why browser behavior is studied for drafting IDN standard? Does it mean that if this policy was drafted 10 years, back, none of the Malayalam characters will be allowed in IDN? 10 years back, Malayalam rendering was pathetic in browsers. Or the current policy is going to change when browsers improve the rendering and their address bar behavior later? How can a standard drafted based on its Implementation? - [[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:00, 5 December 2010 (PST)

# Visually identical glyphs are not the only entries to be considered for the variant table. Unicode chart itself has ambiguous dual representations for the same code point without canonical equivalence. An example for this is au signs in Tamil and Malayalam. ௗ- ௌ and ൗ - ൌ . The document does not consider these special cases.
#: CDAC's Response: The IDN policy does not permit the entry of syllables having structure CMM or MCM, where M stands for Matra or vowel sign. The ABNF rules takes care of this.
#:: That is wrong. ൗ - ൌ are neither CMM nor MCM case. It is single code pointed Mathra(vowel signs), appearing with consonants in CM format alone. -[[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 01:04, 5 December 2010 (PST)
# There are different orthographic forms for many glyphs in Malayalam. The variant table does not address different scenarios arising while considering the visual similarity. For example in traditional orthography TTA is written in stacked form (റ്റ). While in modern orthography it can be written in non-stacked form and this non-stacked form is visually identical to two RA sequence (ററ).
#:CDAC's Response : Only the stacked form is considered to be the conjunct TTA in modern orthography.
#:: i don't really understand the logic. A normal user is easily spoofed with റ്റ and ററ. If we go by CDAC's logic another inorganic standardisation will be the result --[[User:Jinesh.k|Jinesh.k]] 06:26, 4 December 2010 (PST)
#:: As noted before, please don't answer questions about IDN using Modern/Old orthography distinction. Nobody with proper Malayalam knowledge will say that nonstacked റ്റ is not TTA. The nonstacked form is explained in detail in Unicode 5.1.0 standard. see http://unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/ CDACs statement is a contradiction to this.

=== ABNF rules ===

#Section 2 says ക് as pure consonant of ക. Chillu of ക്‍ is considered as pure consonant of ka.
#: CDAC's Response: The policy document doesn't address the obsolete characters in the script, although those characters might have been included in Unicode code chart.
#:: On what basis CDAC decided that a character is obsolete? Does CDAC understand that people write the name "CDAC" in Malayalam using Chillu of K like സിഡാക്‍ ? -[[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:20, 5 December 2010 (PST)
# Section 2.a says CM can be followed by only D (anuswara) or X (visarga). This excludes the Samvruthokarams of Malayalam. All consonant can have cons + u vowel sign + virama and forming samvruthokaram form of that consonant. Examples: തു് , കു് , പു് , രു് .
#: CDAC's Response: The use of samvruthokarams is considered to be the part of traditional orthography which the policy doesn't permit.
#:: We already explained that orthography is not even a subject on discussion here. Can CDAC provide a definition on what is traditional orthography and what is modern orthography? With a list of "allowed" "characters" in modern orthography which is present in traditional Orthography? What is meant by "permitting"? What stops from a user to use a so called modern orthography font to write samvruthokaram? - [[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:20, 5 December 2010 (PST)
# Section 3.a restrict the count of consonant in syllable as 4. But ഗ്ദ്ധ്ര്യ has 5 consonants
#: CDAC's Response : Complex conjuncts like ഗ്ദ്ധ്ര്യ have been simplified in modern orthography.
#:: Just wanted to know how a conjunct can be simplified? If "simplified" will the number of consonants reduce? Will the number of Unicode characters reduce?! CDAC should understand the difference between a conjunct and glyph before answering the question. -- [[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:20, 5 December 2010 (PST)
# Section 3.b excludes syllables with samvruthokram like ക്കു് .
# Section 4 states a chillu can be followed by a vowel sign. Since chillu is dead consonant, there is no possibility of having virama after chillu.
#:CDAC's Response : The document doesn't state that a chillu can be followed by a vowel sign. The observation that a virama can appear after a chillu is based on the recommendation of Unicode
# The example used for LHC - ന്‍്റ does not exist in printing or digital format. None of the input methods or Malayalam writers ന്റ in this way. The sequence for nta is ന + ് + റ . ie there is no LHC sequence in Malayalam.
#: CDAC's Response: The ന്‍്റ happened because none of the rendering engines available today does support the rendering of 'nTa' in the Unicode 5.1 way. as displayed in the document is the wrongly rendered form of the conjunct 'nTa'. This 5.1 official document on rendering the conjunct 'nTa'.
#:: CDAC said, it did extensive study on rendering in various browser address bars and took policy decision was based on that. So for this, no study was conducted? Never noticed that browsers are not able to render this properly? -[[User:സന്തോഷ്|സന്തോഷ്]] 00:57, 5 December 2010 (PST)
# Since LHC is invalid for Malayalam, including L = ന്‍ , section 5 of the document cancels itself.
# Because of argument #6, section 6 also cancels itself.
# Because of arguments #1 to #8 the IDN rule "Consonant Sequence → *3(CH) C [H|D|X|M[D|X]] | L[HC[D|H|M[D]]]" is completely wrong and need to be reformulated.

=== Restriction Rules ===
# Section 2 says "H is not permitted after V, D, X, M, digit and dash" This is wrong since samvruthokaram requires H after V
#:CDAC's Response : See the explanation for section 2 under ABNF Rules
# Section 7 says H can follow L if it is followed by റ , This is wrong as explained above. L can never followed by H. It can only followed by C
#:CDAC's Response : See the explanation for section 5 under ABNF Rules

=== nta criticism===

This document does not address the case of stacked and non stacked forms of nta, which are interchangeably used. For example എന്റെ can be spoofed with എന്‍റെ. Severity of this issue is increased by having one more sequence to represent the same conjunct (ന്‍ + ് + റ) is introduced in Unicode 5.1
: CDAC's Response : Ans : Modern orthography treats ന്‍റ as 'nRa' and ന്‍റ as 'nTa'. The interchangeable usage of stacked and non-stacked forms for the conjunct 'nTa' is wrong by convention.

===Chart of allowed characters===

#Malayalam chillus - the 5.1 version ക്‍ is removed from the tables. which is having same characteristics and use cases of other chillus. So excluding it from the allowed code points does not make any sense. Moreover the existing chillu representation - non-atomic - is not mentioned in the document at all.
# Malayalam au sign - ൌ is not allowed. Instead the au length mark ൗ is provided. The inscript standard does not allow one to type ൗ and allows only ൌ. Other input methods allows to type both. But the document does not say anything on the equivalence of both. Allowing both vowel signs is also a spoofing issue. And hence this should be handled in variant table.
#: CDAC's Response : The inscript standard being revised. The new standard allows both the characters to be inputted. For restricting spoofing and phishing, only one form i.e. ൗ by IDN policy (used in modern text) has been allowed

=== Variant Table and Visual Spoofing ===
Variant table is not logical. Only ളള and ള്ള makes sense. None of the other entries should be considered as spoofing. ന്ത and ന്ന is not even close. Mirror images are already used in Latin, eg. b and d. Hence സ്സ and ഡ്ഡ cannot be blocked. Moreover it is not clear why the same logic does not apply for സ and ഡ. It did not consider the case of ററ and non stacked form of റ്റ common in new lipi.

: CDAC's Response : The variant table is based on the observations how Malayalam characters and conjuncts are rendered in the address bars of standard browsers like IE, Mozilla and Safari. While ന്ത and ന്ന are perfectly rendered in Mozilla and Safari, they are not legibly rendered in various versions of IE. The mirror imaged nature of the glyphs was not the criterion for the two glyphs to be qualified as variants. Also note that the variant table is not a full-proof mechanism which can prevent spoofing.

Even though similarity is considered, dual encoding is not mentioned. In case of dual encoding of chillus, both forms (atomic chillu and consonant chandrakkala ZWJ) of chillus will look SAME.
: CDAC's Response : IDN policy doesn't allow control characters such as ZWJ and ZWNJ to be part of domain names.

== Conclusion==
The CDAC Policy document on Malayalam IDN is not acceptable without correcting the above explained errors. In its current format, the document was prepared with lot of false assumptions and contains many technical mistakes as pointed out above. Consultation is must with all stake holders of Malayalam Computing before preparing such an important document. This was not happened and we expect such an initiative from the authorities.

== Discussion ==
# Discussion about the CDACs response: http://lists.smc.org.in/pipermail/discuss-smc.org.in/2010-December/011985.html